Didn't Miguel Cotto Already Turn Down a pacquiao Catchweight Rematch Last Year?

Do you want me to sit here and pwn you all day? You said that Pac fought Cotto at Cotto's best division. Cotto's division was welterweight, which has a weight limit of 147 pounds. Pac fought Cotto at 145 pounds. So, either

1. You don't know what the weight limits for each class are (YDKSAB)

or

2. There is a magical 145 pound division that only Pac and his fans know exist.

BTW, Ortiz vs. Berto was fought at the welterweight limit of 147 pounds, *******, and this is only about your previous idiotic statement. Just admit you were wrong.

 

there is no wrong at fighting at catchweights as long as both fighters agreed and made the weight. i am just showing *****s how hypocritical is it to bash pac alone for fighting at catchweights when other fighters do it all the time. even floyd did a catchweight fight ahead of pac in his fight against jmm.

i said pac-cotto2 is a money fight since pac already had beaten cotto before. but it doesn't mean that he has to bow down to floyd's low-ball offer of no PPV share. we are not making an excuse. it's just as it is. even floyd fans thinks of floyd fighting cotto once again because of the success of the last PPV.

 

The reason why people get on Pac is because it was for a belt at a higher weight class.. He did his thing,but through the path of least resistance.. I mean he gave a cheater a fight,just so he can steal a belt at 154..

Also Cotto has regretted going low,and say he will not play with his health anymore..

 

No PEDs. No KO.

 

WW division spans 140.1 to a maximum of 147. Anything in there is in the WW division.
And there was nothing in that fight, before or after, that suggested making 145 was a detriment to Cotto's stamina. That bull**** has been repeated so often WAY too many people here act like it's the truth.

 

WW is anywhere between above 140 and at 147 exactly.

and berto-ortiz is at catchweight.

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so again will you calm down and answer now my question? what weight divison did cotto fought margarito a second time?

 

There is something wrong with saying Pac beat Cotto at his best weight, because he didn't. Just like you can not say Mayweather beat Marquez at lightweight because he didn't.

Asking a champion to lose weight in order to defend his own belt is a ***** move. If you want a man's belts, go into his division and fight him.

In the case of Pac/Cotto II, neither man has a belt and they fight one division apart. A catchweight is OK in this scenario.

 

If it meant nothing why didn't Freddie allow Cotto to weight 147? If 1 or 2 pounds is not an issue,why would Pac NOT fight Cotto at that weight?

The only logical one,is he wanted a weakened fighter.. You can't say it means nothing when it was demanded... Manny's catch weights for titles will always be questionable,had he done it the right way,we would not be having this convo.

 

Most people, at least those who can think rationally about a subject, acknowledge Pac's size as a reason for the 145 limit. It's not rocket science.

 

They fought at 153, in the 154 range but not the limit. Cotto, the champion, made a request for one extra pound in order for Margarito to get a shot at his belts.

What does that have to do with Pac and Cotto? Pac didn't step up and take the champions belts at the full welterweight limit.

 

fighters negotiate for a catchweight if they are currently fighting at different divisions. it's not like pac was the only boxer doing it. as long as they both made the weight it's fine. if they don't like the weight, then they should not sign for it. the worst thing that could happen is agreeing on a contracted weight and ignoring it.

 

His size wasn't the issue when he fought Oscar at 147..

Why did it change for Cotto....:think

 

The last time Cotto made 150 or less was 3 years ago against Pacquiao himself. Fight at 154 or not at all ffs.

 

Who said it meant nothing? Where do you even get that from my post? It's about evening the matchup for BOTH GUYS TO MEET, when one is at such a disadvantage size wise coming up in weight. LIke I said, there's been nothing to support the notion making 145 hurt Cotto. He didn't fight any different vs. Pac then he has against anyone else. And no, Manny's catchweight will probably not, because, as said, evryone knows he was a much smaller guy competing with the big boys. If Floyd moved up to 160, fought Andre ward at 165, would that mean the win meant nothing? Hell no! And I'm supposed to be the biggest hater of Floyd. It would be a major win, due to the size difference. Some of you just over think things to try and make a point.

 

Yet he fought for a bogus 154 pound belt, so Pac's size is only an issue on a fight by fight basis, apparently.

If Pac and his fans want full credit for beating a fighter, beat the fighter without extra advantages. It's not rocket science.