Didn't Miguel Cotto Already Turn Down a pacquiao Catchweight Rematch Last Year?

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  1. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: Tell me ur joking
     
  2. Bee KeepZ

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    No, Cotto wanted the rematch at 150 and Pacquiao wanted it WW.
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

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    For starters, and if you've been reading thre thread, DLH has pull on his side. DLH can make demands that benefit him (As he has done in the past). And since one was going up from 135, one down from 154, it was a compromise.

    The stuff about Mosley is actually irrelevent, since it was not a mandatory fight. But seeing as Pac fought Cotto, the guy who BEAT Mosely, is this really something to complain about? But just as so many Floyd fans are bashing nonaire for fighting a top fighter, who ISN'T Rigo, it is what it is I guess. Pointless bashing. BTW, Mosley's was desperate to get in the mix. If he fights Mosley, Pac is ducking the guy who BEAT Mosley. If he fights him at 142, he FORCED Mosley down. He can't win. This is a silly game played ALL too often by the younger, more emotionally vested posters.

    Anyway, Pac fought DLH, weighing 142 at the weigh in. VERY next fight, fought Hatton weiging 138 at the weigh in. And then Cotto, moving up.

    Big deal he didn't fight Mosley IMMEDIATELY at WW. Just as Floyd didn't fight the best 140er when he went there his first fight. Just as Floyd fought Sharmba mitchell in his WW debut, and just as DLH fought Sturm for his first fight at 160, THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. It's called testing the waters. So why make a big deal out of it because Pac did the same thing just about ALL guys do? Let me gues....because of what Pac fans say? If that's the case, get over it. Fans say all kinds of ****.
     
  4. PH|LLA

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    Pac didn't offer to fight Cotto at 145. Pac wanted Cotto to come down to 143, Cotto wanted Pac to come up to 145. Pac agreed.
     
  5. Canibus81

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    Yup that's why the 5 judges that rescored it had him winning big.(not 3, 5) But yea your right, he had a life and death struggle with him.
     
  6. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think they're saying it's not about ODLH having pull, he shouldn't need pull to get a fight at the full weight limit.. Especially not Cotto since Cotto had the title and won it at 147, and Pac already fought at 147.

    He wouldn't have been ducking Cotto if he fought Mosley, had it been at the full limit.. Fighting either of them below 147 was going to get criticism... It just ADDS to the criticism when Mosley was willing to go down in weight to get the fight, but they still wouldn't take it.. Only to fight Cotto below the weight, like he had no intention of fighting WW's at the full limit.. If that was the case he shouldn't have fought for the title until he was comfortable at the weight is what most think. A large part of his claim to fame is his '8 weight classes' he's won titles in, and a lot of fans have a problem with that when he refused to fight at the full weight limit for the last two.. He could have fought Mosley at 145 since that's where he fought Cotto AND Mosley previously offered that weight.. Then he could have fought Cotto at the full limit when he felt ready to fight at 147, and these conversations wouldn't have happened..

    Like people say about Floyd and his personality, he invites criticism and hate.. Same with Pac winning these titles at catch-weights and throwing his '8 division champion' credentials at people..

    Again, it's not a knock on him he didn't fight Mosley immediately.. Not sure where you got that from.. People are saying he didn't fight Mosley when Mosley was looking good, and even offered to come down to the same weight Manny fought Cotto at.. But Pac decided to fight Cotto, for Cotto's title at a weight below the limit, when he should have fought someone else in a non-title match if he wasn't comfortable with the limit. Which could have easily been Shane.
     
  7. str1

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    So Floyd fought a better version of Cotto but still past his prime nonetheless? If so how can a fighter receive a beating with "bricks", then an ass whooping by a midget and then be in an all out war with Margacheato, who according to many would of KO Cotto if the fight wasn't stopped, and finally fight Floyd only to be a better version than the one Pac fought? :think
     
  8. Divi253

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    -According to the fight contract, the Puerto Rican will be fined $1 million for every pound in excess of 145 lbs., The Philippine Star reported. Moreover, if Cotto goes a fraction beyond 147 lbs., Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, reportedly said he would call off the bout.-

    :lol::lol: Pac don't play when it comes to making sure his opponent isn't bigger. Still unsure why it was $10 million for Mayweather.
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

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    Plemty are asking WHY DLH was allowed to weigh 147, so I gave my best answer: because he had the pull to do it ask and get that. Not to mention, coming down 7 pounds already.

    And SJS19 asked why not Mosley, seeing as he was #1. Well, he fought the guy who beat Mosley.

    As for Cotto, he weighed ONE POUND less then from his previous fight, and that supposedly drained him.

    Look, when a smaller guy is moving up, there's certain concessions that must be made to make the fight. And then on this board, guys go out of their way to exxagerate or blatantly lie about things like forcing one to be drained, or a supposed rehydration clause. It's a pontless game here.

    Lastly, there has NEVER been a rule that said a title fight MUST be at the upper limit. The only rule is, they must BOTH agree to it.
     
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    why did floyd want to weight drain winky wright and sergio martinez?

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=13547555&posted=1#post13547555
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

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    It's called making sure one party adheres to the weight agreement. If they make weight as planned, those fee's mean nothing. I mean, big ****in deal, FORCING a fighter to fight at the weight he's supposed to. You guys look for ANYTHING to use as ammo, even if it's just blanks.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

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    these *****s are ******s. :lol:
     
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    :yep:yep
     
  15. Divi253

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    You conveniently ignored this post.. And the one where he stated he won't drain himself for Pac again. :nut