Didn't see fight, did Lopez seriously spank Loma with a boxing lesson?4"

Wait, have you seen the fight or not?

 

...and tbh it wasn't even a "shame on us" situation for not having seen it w/ López. He never showed anything previously in the pros to suggest he could drum up a performance that complete & mature...he was either holding a lot back until the night it really counted, or he's the fastest-improving prospect I've seen in forever.

 

Loma isn't as dynamic of a fighter as we thought he was. Power and physicality matters. It's a still a FFS. If you're deathly afraid of eating leather and therefore glue your own gloves to your skull all night long then maybe you just aren't that good.

Teo essentially punked him. He landed a few partially blocked blows and then Loma danced all night long. All Teo had to do was negate Loma's positioning which really wasn't that hard to do because Loma likes to get to the same spot everytime. And hit him a couple of times and he was done.

You know what I'm saying. It's still a fight. All the dancing in the world can't substitute for a good old fashioned punch in the face. You got to punch the other guy.

 

Eh...no. Every fighter, no matter how great, has a ceiling beyond which the size is just too much. We know that Loma's upper limit is basically a guy with a welter frame, now. There's no shame in that.

DLH was terrific from 135 up to junior middle - but hit the ceiling hard past that (got a gift over Sturm and kayoed by Hops). Hatton was an example of somebody with a narrow little window in which they can a) make weight and b) shine and become an elite - he was literally only any good at 140, but there he was a buzzsaw (who today gets underrated but he really was a handful for anyone h2h) ...and then an utterly crap welter.

Yeah yeah yeah, I know you're going to bring up Pacquiao - but you realize what an outlying anomaly he is, right? Not a standard to hold up every other participant in the sport to. Besides, even though we never saw it even he would've found a limit - a weight class in which even in his prime he'd lose badly to a mediocre guy. Like imagine he fought Sakio Bika?? He'd get iced. Super middle would have been too much for him, even against journeymen. And that's okay. Doesn't make him any less great.

 

You don't have to tell me that. I think size is the most important factor in a bout. But it's not like Loma is a tiny little Flyweight who's just being swallowed up by a huge guy. Yes, Teo has the size advantage, but he would have been a more physical fighter than Loma even if they were the same size. Teo is p4p stronger, faster, harder punching, quicker, more athletic than Loma is. The size advantage just multiplies his physical advantages. That's what's dishonest about all this size BS. Even if they were the same size there would still be a huge power differential.

Either Loma was too afraid of getting hurt or he doesn't have the necessary athleticism or skill to compete with Lopez. There is more to boxing than footwork.

 

Okay but did you skim over the part of my point about guys like Ricky? Some fighters have narrower windows of effectiveness than others, and there's nothing shameful about that. Yes if Loma came up from light fly and beat a López that's more creditable than starting at feather...but the latter shouldn't mean it counts exponentially more against him if he loses. Either way no matter his starting point, the fact is that he found his 'too big'.

If they were both the same, natural whatever-weights, then yes López would have a power edge but he wouldn't bully Loma pillar to post necessarily with physicality without the size advantage.

 

It amazes me how little respect some of you 'fans of Teo' are treating this. All of a sudden, it's now Loma just wasn't as good as FANS thought? When you say crap like that, you essentially take away the huge effort and discipline Teo exhibited to win. And why? To stick it to Loma fans?!?!

 

Campbell and Linares were both bigger than Lopez. I think Loma found his ‘too big and too good’, or maybe he just had a bad night at the office and fought totally the wrong fight.

 

That's fair...but I happen to believe Campbell and Linares are both pretty damn good, and it'll take at least another night's work at this level to convince me López is definitively better than either of them as opposed to just having more of a stylistic and physicality advantage over Loma than either.

 

It's a poster called "SerbianLoud.Mouth"

 

OMG....... come on. Can you imagine what would happen the moment Lopez's glove even comes close to the vicinity of Linares' jaw?

 

Jesus Christ how fickle are boxing fans .. Lomachenko has been one of the best champions the sport has had for the past 7 years.. he's 32, plagued with injury , inactive & now he's overrated as fk!! WTF is wrong with these ppl! Isn't he allowed to lose?! No he didn't get spanked contrary to what the morons are trying suggest, hardly anything happened in the first half and he won the second half when he bit down and went for it.. look at Lopez' face! Have people forgot that the likes of JMM, PAC, Chocolito, JLC, Martinez etc.. great fighters.. all lost.. why cant Loma? Blame yourself if u think he wronged u, I still maintain he's one of the best talents I've ever seen. Let's see if he can rebound first before writing him off… Lopez was massive by the way, he looked like a welterweight!

 

whats up, brother. you and i have discussed the subject of how good loma is in relation to those around him, and hes pretty much where i told you he was back then. below guys like mikey. the salido fights should have been a clue, but everyone scrambled to rearrange facts to give loma the benefit of every doubt so he could continue the whole matrix show. almost everyone. remember how i told you in what way mikey would beat him? just substitute teo, and you have this fight.
but, teo is much sharper than i think all of us had him. for me, that fight with the japanese dropped him a lot in my assessments of him. that turned out to be misleading as he showed up with much better timing and much more disciplined. hes a real fighter now, not just a talented kid.

 

When did Loma ever beat anybody as good as the fighters that those 5 fighters beat?

 

Hes probably one of those guys who gets passed around & constantly bummed in prison .. snitches on everyone.. fkin fans like this who needs haters?