Diet plan to shift 1.5kg in two weeks

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Harryno1, May 31, 2012.


  1. Harryno1

    Harryno1 New Member Full Member

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    As the title suggest I need to get rid of the last bit of weight before my fight on the 15th June, 1.5kg doesnt sound a lot but im 6'4" and fighting at 75kg, so there is hardly any fat on me anyway.

    I started this week by making my diet as strict as possible, and training every night, typical day this week:

    6.00 - Porridge
    8.30 - Casein shake
    10.00 - Berries
    13.00 - Chicken Soup
    16.00 - Berries
    18.30 19.45 trained
    19.45 whey shake
    20.30 Chicken, veg.

    The only problem with this was I was ****ed at training last night, felt like I had no energy and my sparring suffered because of it.

    So what im looking for is any additions to the above diet that lets me loose the necessary weight but still leaves me with enough energy to train properly, and hit each session as hard as possible...

    As I said im pretty ripped as it is, (think a white Tommy Hearns) thats why im struggling with this.

    Any help will be appreciated
     
  2. macademics

    macademics Active Member Full Member

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    Add some veg mid-day
     
  3. dayuum

    dayuum Active Member Full Member

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    Why would you fight a Super middleweight at 6'4 when you have a much easier time making weight for LHW/CW/HW?
     
  4. Harryno1

    Harryno1 New Member Full Member

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    Because ive always been in good shape and when I started boxing I came in at 73kg, this was back in August. So 75kg kinda got set as my fighting weight, however since then, with all the boxing and gym work ive gradually grown in weight to 76.5kg..

    Also I was meant to be fighting at 76kg (agreed catch weight) but on Wednesday he dropped out, now my trainer has matched me with someone else and it now means im in at 75kg.

    I thought people fought at the lowest weight possible, and by fighting at 75kg im going to have a reach advantage on most fighters
     
  5. Harryno1

    Harryno1 New Member Full Member

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    Im off work next week, so ill go running every morning, 10k sort of thing and add some high intensity exercises on the end of it and see where that gets me...

    The above link was more aimed at 24hr gap between weigh in and dehydrating yourself, which im against doing.

    Ill do this and let you all know how I get on.....
     
  6. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can eat all the 'clean' foods you want, if you don't know how much of it you're taking in relative to your requirements, there's no way to know whether you're even in a defecit.
     
  7. Harryno1

    Harryno1 New Member Full Member

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    Calorie intake isnt too high, 250 in porridge, about the same in the chicken & veg soup, and then around 400 with my tea, add say 200 calories from Whey shake and fruit throughout the day and were taking 1500 - 1700 at the most, with the fact im training 6 days a week, eating reguarly I would of thought I had a fast metabolism and would be in a deficit no problem.

    Ill weigh myself each day at around 18.00 (weigh in time) and monitor if im actually losing it
     
  8. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep, a calorie intake of 1500-1700 is horrendously low for somebody two weeks out from a fight. You'll lose the weight, but that's too low.
     
  9. Harryno1

    Harryno1 New Member Full Member

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    Can you recomend a happy medium then? Im guessing increase calories before and after training for starters.. maybe eat some cottage cheese before bed aswell
     
  10. KiD Caiman

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    The reason you feel ****ed in training is because the only thing you ate 5 hours before is berries. Eat some complex carbs (wholewheat bread/wholewheat pasta/potatoes/etc) in your 16.00 meal. There's not much carbs in general in your diet either.
     
  11. pichuchu

    pichuchu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i don't think your eatin enough.
    and maybe replace the protien shakes with a carb source. Gram for Gram they have the same amount of cals so...
     
  12. Pork Chop

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    I agree with everything else you said except this.
    The only reason why, is because everyone's calorie expenditure while working out is pretty variable - some people burn a whole lot less than others.
    His BMR before exercise is probably just under 2000.
    I've always thought that 1000 calories is too much of a deficit; so I'll agree that if he's burning more than 700 calories a workout, then 1700 is probably too low, but there's no guarantee that he is burning more than 700 calories in his workout.

    Personally, I think he should be getting more whole foods instead of processed stuff like protein shakes and porridge. The berries (and possibly the veggies with the chicken - not sure what he's eating) seem to be the only fresh things he eats.

    Supposed to be 6 servings of veggies a day. Veggies are low calorie, so if you can afford them, add them - and try to stick with fresh veggies. I would drop protein shakes in favor of eggs for breakfast and better proteins the other meals (ie more fresh chicken, fish, turkey, and/or lean beef).

    Drop the chicken soup unless it's home made; the amount of salt and preservatives in the canned stuff can mess you up. Soup does make you feel more full though, so home made soup with fresh veggies would actually be ideal if you can swing it.

    I would go for steel cut oats instead of porridge if you can. The less processed the food, the more available the nutrients. Steel cut oats have fiber which makes you feel full and carbs that will last you the whole day.

    I eat about 1500 calories a day. The staple proteins in my diet are eggs, lean steak, chicken, ground turkey, and even bacon. The staple carbs are quinoa and whole wheat breads, but in general pretty low carb. I get a lot of fresh spinach and other veggies. Here's the menu for where I get my food if you want any ideas:
    https://www.zedrics.com/nw_military_menu
     
  13. Jdsm

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    He's 75kg and two weeks out from a fight, 1500-1700 calories is too low, it won't cover BMR and on top of that you have all other daily activities, not just his workout. If he trains REALLY hard, he's going to be doing damage to his metabolism.
     
  14. Pork Chop

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    Thought you might find these interesting:
    A good summary article
    An interesting starvation study that might explain Ricky Fatton
    Another interesting starvation study, this time on the effects starvation on protein metabolism
    Another study on the effects of starvation, this time on metabolic adaptation
    An interview with a proponent of periodity fasting.

    Thing is, we're only talking 1.5kg and a very short time frame.
    The amount is so little, I'd actually recommend sweating it off via epsom salt baths; as opposed to overly strict dietary restriction.
    You're right that he should eat enough that he can work out hard, but definitely not so much that he'll gain weight.
    Either way, he definitely needs to change up what he's eating, because I don't think he's meeting his body's requirements for macro-nutrients.
     
  15. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not recommending that he tries to gain weight, but in when I was training for my fight I was at around 3000kcal and still dropping weight and I boxed at 70.5kg. I'm aware everybody's training and body is different, but he's simply not eating enough tbh. I would really worry over 1.5kg in two weeks anyway tbh, it's an amount that could come off via slight fluid/certain food restriction.