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Aussie Invader said: ↑

remember when you commented on the german being one-eyed about DM?
you do the same thing to a point too.
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I don't remember that, doesn't sound like something I would say. What comment are you referring to?

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I don't remember that, doesn't sound like something I would say. What comment are you referring to?
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just that surrix guy saying that "canelo cherry-picked floyd mayweather", and then he went on to defend sven ottke.
crazy stuff.

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Aussie Invader said: ↑

just that surrix guy saying that "canelo cherry-picked floyd mayweather", and then he went on to defend sven ottke.
crazy stuff.
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Well that's not what you just said about a "german being one-eyed about DM". I called him out for calling Mayweather and GGG "cherry picks" which is obviously ridiculous and you concurred. I said nothing about him being one-eyed about DM. Don't know what caused you to say that.

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shadow111 said: ↑

Well that's not what you just said about a "german being one-eyed about DM". I called him out for calling Mayweather and GGG "cherry picks" which is obviously ridiculous and you concurred. I said nothing about him being one-eyed about DM. Don't know what caused you to say that.
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sorry i got that wrong.
it was an ottke comment.

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the dip doesnt get talked nor typically penalized because it's a high risk maneuver. Only few people can get away with it because you need incredible skills and reflexes to do that. Compare it with clinching and holding. Yes sure clinching has its own set of -often not discussed- skills, but you can still stall and get away with it easily, which is why i dreaded watching Wladimir Klitschko. You dont get the luxury to stall action with a dip, if anything you are even more vulnerable (see saunders). The condom thing is something that happened years ago where he tried to stop a campaign where low-income families would be given condoms for free. Unfortunate just as much as when he called gay people worse than animals or something along the line. My point is they are both fallible humans, ignorant and unlikeable, but because of different reasons. The narrative is different though because Pacquiao is seen as the good guy and Mayweather the "heel". Boxing is a show too, to an extent..
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Hatton complained about Floyd ducking too low all Cortez said was " Dont hit him while he's down there Ricky or I'll take a point " LOL This is the same Cortez that docked a point from Hatton when Floyd ducked out of the ring Hatton threw a punch that hit the top rope not Floyd . Cortez ruled it was a rabbit punch LOL !!! Hilarious isnt it

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22JM said: ↑

That little man has been fighting LHW and 168 fighter's, While your hero ggg fights blown up Walter weights or 154 fighter's
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Pathetic Log Off !!

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22JM said: ↑

That little man has been fighting LHW and 168 fighter's, While your hero ggg fights blown up Walter weights or 154 fighter's
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Whats WALTERWEIGHTS Dumbo ??How much does Walter weigh ???
Youre just too easy lol

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one guy is retired while the other is active. Id fight logo Paul for 100k nevermind 50 mill

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Good video on the subject, this guy knows his ****.

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shadow111 said: ↑

Those aren't my arguments, those are strawmans. And if you want to get into posting the "highlights" the highlights would be hand picked to showcase Mayweather's best moments and ignoring Canelo's highlights. There was an obvious agenda to make Mayweather's win be better than it was because his fans and the larger boxing public were so damn insecure about how Canelo took Mayweather to his limit. And this was not a faded Mayweather, this was a Mayweather who was still in the twilight of his prime.

But lets go through your strawmans. Floyd didn't run like Lara did. Floyd stayed in the pocket for most of the night. Though he pulled back anticipating punches that never came far too often, otherwise known as biting on feints, which I pointed out long before Canelo was known for being a master of feints as he is now. Reference : Tim Bradley's latest video where he talks about the brilliant fake right hand come back with the left feint that he did against Billy Joe Saunders. Yeah several years ago I was talking about Canelo's feints vs Mayweather which up to that point nobody even noticed. Why? Because it flies in the face of the supposed Mayweather schooling myth that has become so popular. Biting on that amount of feints is evidence of being schooled, not schooling someone.

Mayweather bent down below the waist countless times througout the match vs Canelo, which is technically a foul. No one until that dude posted that video about it ever talked about it. Mayweather did this because he had nowhere else to go. Canelo still peppered him when he popped back up. Mayweather had all kinds of problems when his back hit the ropes vs Canelo. And when Canelo went back to the ropes in the 10th round, Mayweather couldn't land anything with Canelo on the ropes and Mayweather realized this so he backed away. Then he tried to do the same thing to Canelo and backed up himself, and proceeded to get hit with a 12 punch combination including 2 big right hands that rocked Mayweather. But no one talks about this because this would destory the Myth that Mayweather dominated. What would you fools do without me to set you straight on this fight?

Now, don't get me wrong Mayweather fanboys or Canelo detractors, Mayweather had his schooling moments as well, in the big 7th round, in the 2nd half of the 8th round, a little bit in te 9th round, and again in the 11th round. Maywether did some schooling after he made his adjustments midway through the fight, but lets not get crazy and act like this was a wire to wire cruise for Mayweather. THe first 6 rounds Canelo fought on on even terms, and most of the rounds were close. He didn't run like Lara (Lara did run, there's a difference between boxing and running) but he struggled to the finish line. Floyd was even booed for stalling in the 12th round don't you remember? Canelo was the most grueling fight of Mayweather's career. And this was a drained, pre-Prime Canelo. But no, I woudn't call him "green", I never have. People call him Green as code for him being weight drained due to Mayweather's cowardly catchweight without saying weight drained because saying that would detract from Mayweather's win.

GGG didn't run in the Canelo rematch, but he did backup and fight off the backfoot aftr calling for a come-forward toe-to-toe Mexican style war. He didn't live up to his own expectation that he set for the rematch.

Tainted beef / CJ Ross - Either you believe in conspiracies or you don't. And remember what happened to Billy Joe Saunders who said to Canelo at the face-off "you like the beef" what did Canelo say - "I love it" then what happened to Billy Joe Saunders lol. So that should tell you what happens to people who say Canelo lives the tainted beef. They get their face smashed in. So I suggest you let go of the beef, so you don't get your face smashed in like Billy Joe did lol.

CJ Ross saw what she saw - a close fight. I made it very clear I didn't think it was a draw but there were plenty of close rounds. When you take into account all the Mayweather dipping down below the waist like in the 8th round, this was a round that Ross gave to Canelo. I thought Floyd pretty clearly won that round down the stretch, but the first half of the round was very close. We can only guess as to what Ross was seeing that round to score it for Canelo. If you decide it has to be corruption, you narrow your mind to other possibilities. If you penalize Floyd for dipping low when he was on the ropes, and still getting tagged to the body and to the head when he popped back up and if you have a bad angle on some of the punches Mayweather landed down the stretch (which was what CJ Ross said when asked about how she arrived at that score) that makes a hell of a lot more sense then concluding it has to be corruption;

I pay attention to the small details in a match and don't fall into the trap of group think or the overwhelming dumbed down talking points from the masses. I look for reason and logic rather than being a lazy bones and just concluding corruption. That's taking the easy way out.
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Didn't read.

Wasted your time again

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JOKER said: ↑

Floyd went out and got hair and beard implants, so we know he's been insecure and depressed about his looks for a long time. And he recently lost his **** when he got trolled by YouTubers. That's not the mark of a secure man.
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yeah and he looks like BRUTUS now

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Anima said: ↑

His life, his choice, its getting him money. I'd do the same. You'd giving him more attention, regardless whether its positive or negative. That works in his favor. Best is to just ignore.
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I'm not giving him attention, rather just making fun of him you know, like a Clown

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C.J. said: ↑

Whats WALTERWEIGHTS Dumbo ??How much does Walter weigh ???
Youre just too easy lol
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Canelo had lots of fights at 147, Brook? Vanes former 154 fighter? Do you even know boxing?

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kiwi_boxer said: ↑

Didn't read.

Wasted your time again
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It was well worth my time. You running away doesn't change the information that was exchanged. I break down your points for your benefit but also for anyone else who is interested in boxing.

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Lol so much for the PED taking gift decision benefiting Canelo being the biggest thing in boxing, Floyd is making $100 million by fighting a youtuber.

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