Difference between Hopkins and Calzaghe?

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  1. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is it that one is and was always willing to take on all comers while the other is and has always been selective? Look at the Pavlik example. Pavlik's camp was willing to fight Calzaghe and the fight was a very real possibility. Even Frank Warren wanted it. Calzaghe didn't. Pavlik's camp tries to find other fights. All don't work out. They finally come to Hopkins and he's like, "Bring it". :good

    Look at Hopkins' last 6 fights. Pavlik, Calzaghe, Winky, Tarver, and TaylorX2. Those are all P4P fighters.
     
  2. smiffy

    smiffy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ****in hell its like groundhog day on here.
     
  3. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    joe won his last 5
    bhop is 2-3 in his
     
  4. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    That does seem true as of late in his career. He's like **** it, i'm already an ATG, what do i got to loose?
     
  5. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Calzaghe has only a handful of good opponents while B-Hop has a lot more,that doesn't mean Joe is weaker like the fight prooved it
     
  6. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    This is a valid point, Hopkins seems determined to test himself by taking on the most difficult fights he can, while Calzaghe is clearly protecting the zero. I don't know how even the most ardent Calzaghe fan can deny this when Hopkins just took the fight he didn't want.

    However, I don't think what either man does now in the twilight of their careers can be considered the difference between them, for me the reason has always and will always be there: Quality. IMO, they are both great fighters, but Hopkins is simply a boxer of higher quality all-round, re my top 25 fighters thread.
     
  7. ya-ni

    ya-ni Guest

    popkins didn't get the balls to step up, HBO an sancetioning bodys made him fight taylor, then after losing, he began to chase down all those big names. jr middle weight wright, tarver (overrated), an calzaghe who chase him around the ring, to get his victory,,,,bernard before taylor had few names on his resume, one jones who he lost too, an then trinadad an dlh, both pretty much at that point over blown welterweights,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,an for not fight palvik, i say after the jones fight, an if palvik wins, joe wants to match up with the white hype gost, then great i looking forward to it, but to say palvik is being ducked, ha ha ha ha ha ha, once again ha ha ha ha ha ha, this just crazy, palvik is not in joe league, he just hyped by a victory over a unmotivated taylor,,,,
     
  8. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fail.
     
  9. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    well their the same in the sense that they both spent years being unknowns and fighting mandatories for peanuts ...

    the only difference is ... hopkins is american ...calzaghe is european ...so that makes calzaghe the devil for doing so
     
  10. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hopkins had to make a big sacrifice to get the big fight with Trinidad.

    He was still with King and ended up fighting Daniels, Hakkar, and Joppy.

    Then after he splits with King, he gets the big fight with DLH, and big fights for pretty much the rest of the way.

    Calzaghe wasn't willing to make that sacrifice when he was with Warren.
     
  11. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins is an all time great past his prime.

    calzaghe is neither.
     
  12. Ospreys_Warrior

    Ospreys_Warrior Member Full Member

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    Hopkins is a ****. Calzaghe isnt.
     
  13. Jude

    Jude Just Journeying Man Full Member

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    :happy
     
  14. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and calzaghe has a ****.:D
     
  15. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    2 of Calzaghe's 5 were against Manfredo and Bika.

    My gran would knock Manfredo out properly at SMW, not get the fight stopped unjustly by a blinding flurry of slaps. And I'd take her to beat Bika by late stoppage or landslide UD.

    But the old girl would have no chance v Calzaghe, Wright, Tarver or Taylor.