Dillain Whyte article from Steve Bunce about being stitched up.

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  1. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    Oh dear, if you can't see that Joshua/Fury is a far far bigger fight than Joshua/Whyte 2, there is no hope.
     
  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    We can agree to disagree, I respect fury for fighting Wlad, and Wilder.... but Wilder gave that oppurtunity to Fury on a silver platter... because he thought Fury was finished.

    Whyte ain't getting these same chances when he is JUST as game to step up, and been trying to get his shot at Wilder.

    Other than that, Fury walked away from the spots, fought just one good name is however long, and all of a sudden we are dimishing the hard work put in by Whyte and matchroom, and elevating Fury on a stairway to heaven.

    Fury is boring man, why is the money in the heavyweight division? Why do we say move up to heavyweight that is where the money is????

    Becausse the pundits, fans or not, like BLOOD GLORY ACTION KOs.... everything Whyte is about. 2018 was Whytes year, and his KO's will stand the test of time. This is market value.
     
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  3. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    Why do you feel the need to make personal comments about someone you know nothing about?

    You talk about bias while displaying a Dillian Whyte avatar.

    You can stamp your feet and scream as much as you like, but it's not going to change the fact that AJ doesn't need Dillian as much as Dillian needs him. Perhaps you are actually him (or his brother?). That would make more sense because you aren't making any.
     
  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Well you can laugh at me because i'm different i laugh at you because you're all the same. It's disgusting how you elevate the status of Fury.

    And now his next opponent is Schwarz.

    I am sickened, the boring style, the inactivity, the giving up on the sport.

    Whyte has got fight of the year, highlight reel KO's, PPV sales, high ranking across the board... and Fury shows up and Whyte becomes irrelevant.

    Why do I care what you think, the pundits already pay for tickets, and see the value in Whyte!! End of.
     
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  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I am pretty sure on my assessment of your comprehension on business strategy, and financial standing to warrant my assertions. You claim 5 million to be big bucks, and Whyte is a fool not to have taken it. But you miss the context entirely.... this is more than enough reasoning for me to pass judgement on you.

    I do have bias towards Whyte, but I don't lie when I say he had the best 2018, he is top contender int he world, best KO of recent times, massive PPV success second only to AJ. If anything your hate of Dillian surpasses my Bias.

    Fury might be a bigger draw, he aint a FAR FAR bigger draw. Don't be pathetic. Whyte would have helped sell out wembley EASY.
     
  6. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not elevating Fury at all. He is what he is. I don't particularly care for him or his fighting style. I don't like the fact he's ducked another rematch and I don't like the fact he's fighting Schwarz. Whyte is a more exciting fighter and yes, more deserving. But boxing isn't about what you deserve or what you think you're entitled to.

    Joshua/Fury is greater than the sum of its parts for a multitude of reasons. Joshua/Whyte 2 just isn't. Anyone without an agenda can see that. Feel free to create a poll asking the question, but you know what the answer will be.
     
  7. Birmingham

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    I don't think its his balls or ducking, he's just completely ****ing deluded on what hes worth !
     
  8. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    I don't see anyone agreeing with you. You couldn't be more wrong on all counts.
     
  9. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Well it remains to be seen from you and others on how exactly Fury is the FAR FAR biggeer draw.... would it do 4 times the PPV sales? Would it gain three times more exposure in the press??/

    "Whyte is a more exciting fighter and yes, more deserving. But boxing isn't about what you deserve or what you think you're entitled to."

    Whyte is exciting just like the heavyweight division is exciting, that what people pay to see. People don't show up in droves to watch straweights. This doesn't need explaining.

    Whyte brings the entertainment factor and KO's that the most general and casual of fans ask for. These are the ones with plenty of money to spend on things that give them excitement and a rush. And Whyte has proven he is a draw, so clearly he is entitled to more.... but AJ doesn't want to give it... he would rather milk whyte on the split and in the rematch, when he could be making lots off of Whyte.

    Whyte did Chisora a favour on the rematch clause, his behaviour shows that he is willing to make ffights happen with people he doesn't need to fight. AJ is not doing the same thing.

    You can't tell me Whyte's recent performance haven't increased his exposure and created repeat business in everyone that has ever attended to see his Browne or Chisora KO, or performance against Parker.
     
  10. bluebird

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    Whyte is a solid gate keeper.
     
  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Why do I need people to agree with me? That doesn't change the fact Whyte is a popular, successful fighter.
     
  12. Gymbot

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    You can talk up Whyte all you like, but where is he now? If he'd just backed himself, he would be in the mix, but he didn't so he's now scratching around for a credible opponent just to keep himself relevant. It's obvious he was looking to cash out against Joshua, having already been KTFO by him. That's the message he's sent.
     
  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Whyte has never displayed any behaviour or actions to indicate that he is not in it for the long term, or looking to cash out against anyone.

    You are just woefully disrespecting Whyte's commitement to the sport when he shows up everytime, and delivers. I think you are mistaking him for Fury who is on and off, in and out of the sport.

    Whyte was fighting for free just to make a name for himself when he started boxing. 8 years later he has made a name for himself, and millions and still going.

    You may also be confusing him with Charles Martin who lost to AJ and wen to an alcohol and drug abuse once he made his first few bucks, he also got shot and walked away from the sport. Whyte got KO'd and built himself back into contention.

    He is in an akward place right now, but it could EASILY change with his next one or two fights.

    You see I don't need to talk up whyte, Whyte has already walked the walk.

    No many were agreeing with me when I said he would beat brown, chisora or parker. Now many back him to beat Wilder, and upset Joshua.
     
  14. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    Sorry, you're just typing words for the sake of it now. Nothing you've said changes any of the arguments presented. As Holler said, we'll agree to disagree. It will be interesting to see where Whyte's career goes from now on. FYI I'm no hater of Whyte, I just think (like Wilder) he has been poorly advised/managed.
     
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  15. BaileyBlack

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    Nobody is trying to disparage Whyte but if you cannot see the difference in drawing power, interest and sheer commercial value between a Joshua/Fury fight and a Joshua/Whyte fight then I start to doubt your understanding of the UK boxing market.

    Fury will be offered anything from 15-25 million to fight Joshua based on what the Hearns feel is good commercial value. Remember, these guys are accountants, they will pay based on what they think the earning capacity of the fight is . For example, both have said that the DAZN offer to Wilder is not based on what that fight could earn.

    As a number of people have also indicated above, the additional revenue Whyte brings to a fight against Joshua is negligible over what Joshua can earn with virtually any other opponent on his own.
     
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