Dillain Whyte article from Steve Bunce about being stitched up.

I like Parker but he's hardly viewed as dangerous and without a headbutt KD he beat DW. why did he refuse a rematch with AJ and decline AP and LO?

 

Sheesh, it's bad advice to fight for a "2nd mandatory" (i.e. literally made-up boll0cks) instead of fighting in a multi million generating domestic match-up. Glad you're not my adviser, you're probably praising Breazeale's management for securing him inactivity and a huge punch in the head, all for a pittance ha ha.

 

He declined the Pulev fight, but he wasn't alone in doing so. Miller for instance didn't fancy it either. Pulev had the prime position in the rankings and was due something like 75% of the purse. He was with Sauerland at the time but they lost the purse bid as did Hearn to a third party, who turned out later to be linked to Pulev. They announced they were moving the fight to Sofia and at that point no-one who had any choice or options fancied the fight, for whatever reasons that was. It was only that Hughie Fury's team lacked alternative options that they took the gamble and went to Bulgaria. I don't blame him for passing up on the fight in Bulgaria. He had better, less riskier options so why not use them?

 

I mean I agree, £5 million to be fighting Joshua next week seems like a missed opportunity. Especially when he has no fight currently lined up. However, he is inevitably going to be made the mandatory challenger for one of the belts shortly, so if he has an easier fight between now and then, then so be it until he gets that shot. I do think he has a decent chance at beating Wilder which would set up a super fight with AJ in the future and would make the £5 mill seem like pennies. Alternately, he gets to fight Joshua as a mandatory challenger in the future and I don't think that £5 million will be cut as Hearn is also Whyte's promoter and knows if he low balls him too badly then he will go elsewhere.

Personally I think he stands a better chance against Wilder (in my opinion the easier fight) and will wait until he gets a shot there and earn maybe £2 - £3 mill for that fight. Fury nearly had Wilder going at the end of the fight, and while Whyte is in no way as slick as Fury, he has proven he can take severe punishment and fight back. If he beats Wilder then he makes £15 mill minimum in a fight with AJ for all the belts.

 

Parker is still a top contender and only man to take Joshua the distance, so what exactly is dangerous? He is young, fit, strong - 15 years boxing experience... and you can't even admit that he was a solid opponent that Whyte did not have to take. Parker lost that fight, he had plenty of oppurunity to win it, in fact he should have won it.

There is a difference between declining an offfer, and declining a fight. Take time to look at the sky at nighttime and figure out what that means.

Besides, when did he decline Povetkin?

 

Haha see that’s where you wrong about me..I don’t care for Breazeale one bit.. As a Wilder and Whyte fan that’s the matchup I would much rather see by a stretch just like I’d rather see AJ vs Ortiz.. And the reason you mentioned he didn’t take the Pulev and Ortiz IBF/WBC eliminators is the exact reason why he’s the odd man out right now.. It’s also the reason he figured he was worth more than what AJ was offering for the April 13th date.. Had he taken the Pulev fight he would have been guaranteed the AJ fight.. So again the reason he’s not facing Wilder or AJ is because he took bad advice to choose financials over fighting mandatories and now he’s on the outside looking in.. Also regardless of how anybody feels he and Ortiz are #4 and 5 in all HW rankings and each need an opponent.. Why is he offering to fight Charr when Ortiz is right there? I actually think he has the style to beat Ortiz but he acts as if Ortiz doesn’t exist

 

Who said you were praising Breazeale? I mentioned his management.
As for greasing your way up the rankings to land that oh-so-special mandatory slot, what good is that if you forego millions of pounds on the way there only to get jobbed? It happens all the time.
We should be discussing why following the most lucrative and fan-friendly fights don't allign with the ranking climbing. They should be virtually the same. Only the patent corruption of these bodies and their belts makes this conversation even make sense.
Can you imagine a soccer team winning more games and points than another but ending up below them in the league?
With Whyte having a better resume than Wilder, that's exactly the situation the WBC 'league' has got itself in.
Not only that but the 'league final play-off' is between 1st and 4th place ha ha.
People suggesting boxers who actually risk and dedicate themselves should forego career earnings and "play-ball" with these corrupt organisations are part of the problem.

 

What does Whyte fighting Ortiz bring him now? Nothing it won't even secure him a mandatory, before it would of only secured him a 2nd mandatory, which with Wilder fighting a mandatory once every 4 years should see Whyte get a shot in 2023.

Whyte could of fought Pulev I guess but I don't blame him taking a £2 mill payday on PPV over 400K in Sofia and all that gets him is the IBF mandatory which he doesn't need as he's already ranked 1 by the WBO, so he doesn't need the IBF number 1 spot to get a mandatory vs Joshua.

As for Whyte not fighting the necessary WBC eliminators, did that help Fury when he won an eliminator and then the WBC bypassed him and set up a fight between the WBC silver title holder Stiverne and Arreola?. Whyte could of fought an eliminator, he could of fought 2, but WBC would of found a way to ensure he didn't get a shot, going the WBC route honestly is a waste of time for Whyte, he has about the same chances of getting a WBC mandatory shot as Amir Khan taking a flush power shot from Wilder and not going down.

 

Anyone with eyes can see Whyte is being shafted here. Dillion is the truth, no one wants it.

 

Correct me if I’m wrong again but where was Browne in the Top 10 when Whyte fought him?? Or Chisora?? He definitely deserves tons of credit for defeating Parker and he WAS offered the AJ fight which he turned down.. Again the fight I want to see more than anything is Wilder vs Whyte besides a fight between the big 3 but Breazeale has been the mandatory since last year..
Funny thing is Breazeale even offered to fight Whyte in the UK for the Dec 22 date to put his mandatory spot on the line but Whyte chose to fight Chisora which did nothing for him in the long run but make him more money.. So see where the bad advice kick in for Whyte turn down IBF eliminator turn down WBC eliminator will get replaced in the WBO by Usyk and turn down the AJ rematch..
At what point does he get held accountable for his own mistakes.. And now he makes an offer to Manuel Charr?? really dude why not fight the guy who’s ranked right ahead of you or behind that doesn’t have an opponent just like you.. I actually think Whyte had the rough and rugged style to defeat Ortiz but apparently he doesn’t feel that way because he’s trying to fight anyone but Ortiz..
Make no mistake about it I wish May 18 was Wilder vs Whyte over that farce of a fighter named Breazeale but Whyte is far from getting shafted here all his decisions brought him to this point to where he doesn’t have a fight with AJ or Wilder

 

You have been misinformed on a few things, Dillian has put very reasonable offers to breazeale, Ortiz, Pulev and Povetkin. It is they who are rejecting it and being difficult.

Ortiz was offered 2 million pounds to fight Whyte in UK.... that is FOUR times more than what Ortiz got for Wilder. Ortiz declined, he wants to fight Whyte in USA? Why be an undercard over there when you can be a headline event in UK?

Same **** with Pulev, he didn't want to come to UK to fight Whyte, but wanted Whyte to go Bulgaria for a ridiculous split.

Breazeale and Whyte were about to get it on for an interim title, but then Wilder got sent for as mando... Breazeale likely would have made more money fighting Whyte but hey we all understand... chance to be champ, legacy yadda yadda.

Fact it, whether you like to admit it or not, boxing is a career, it is a job, it is the main source of income for these fighters. You don't find any of these top contenders with a pension plan, or a second weekend job as a management executive. MONEY MATTERS.

It always does, and it always will and you have NO right to dismiss what someone thinks they are worth when negotiating fight deals.

Whyte made his decisions in rejecting silly offers, and making fantastic offers to various contenders. They DON'T WANT WHYTE PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

Whyte is a threat to all their ambitions, these boxers see something about Whyte that has them riled up, because he is a tough customer... that continues to prove people wrong.

The tough granite chinned Chisora got put in his place, and no one thought Chisora could get KOd.... Whyte continue's to suprise.

So yeah you tell me why Ortiz doesnt want £2,000,000 to fight in UK

 

Agreed, what I love most is the shock and suprise everyone gets when Whyte performs. Chisora underestimated him, his trainer Don charles was suprised.

Parker underestimated him, his trainer Barry was suprised by Whyte's ability.

Browne underestimated Whyte, Joshua underestimated Whyte on the rematch with Chisora, David Haye underestimated Whyte on the rematch.

It's just lovely watching idiots get proved wrong, I saw Dillians potential (to win fights) from day 1.

 

If you believe Whyte offered Ortiz 2 million then it ain’t no point debating you as your mind is made up.. IBF ordered a purse bid Pulev team won it he didn’t want to go to Bulgaria.. Whyte didn’t offer Povetkin there was never and offer for Breazeale for Dec 22nd.. Whyte took bad advice.. the only organization that shafted him was the WBO by allowing Usyk to jump him for the mandatory shot.. They could have at least ordered an eliminator for Usyk vs Whyte but judging by his history Whyte don’t fight eliminators..

 

How do you know he didn't offer Ortiz 2 million? And the fight with brezeale was already set, the terms were agreed. Breazeale was going to make a fair bit of cash.

How do you know if Povetkin was offered or not? Whyte on live camera went to Povetkins face and asked for a fight, he called out Povetkin right after the Price fight, and Povetin agreed on camera, in the post fight interview and nodded his head.

But yes, Pov and Breazeale decided to go for the champion instead.

Whyte was getting a shitty deal to go all the way to bulgaria.

Whyte offered Wilder, several millions of pounds. Well over 7 million GBP STERLING. If Whyte is supposedly a peasant in Wilders view how the hell is Wilder declining an easy 7 million fight to whoop a peasant? He has NEVER earned that much.

Whyte is getting ducked plain and simple.

And there are many subtle, diplomatic ways to duck another fighter, it doesn't have to be " No I don't want to fight you". It can be, sure ill fight you but I want you to do this, this and this shitty thing.

 

I agree WBC are going to waste Whyte's time, but now that Usyk is fighting Takam, should he win he will be placed ahead of Whyte in the WBO as mandatory. This was confirmed 4 days ago.

Whyte is in a tough position now, but then again a lot fighters are because greed runs the heavyweight game.