Dillian Whyte: Charles Martin is "a useless bum"

Whyte has a glass chin but resume wise he's easily a level or 2 above Martin. He'd have to be the favorite but Martin still has a punchers chance KO the paper chin roid man i guess

 

Yeah boxing can be crazy because styles make fights and also circumstances can effect outcomes which is why you look at a fighters full body of work not isolated fights which is why I mentioned more names like Parker, Rivas, Chisora which clearly puts Whyte's resume a cut or two above Martins.

Yes you should of been more specific you just said he was a cut above you didn't specify you were only rating chins.

I actually think Kiladze was the one that really exposed Kownacki the way he couldn't slip a punch and was eating punches made it clear he didn't belong anywhere near the top of the division. In fact I thought Martin would give Kownacki a tough fight even saw a possible upset because of how bad Kownacki looked vs Kiladze, so that fight being close wasn't a shock to me.

That fight no doubt raised peoples opinions of Martin but then again how could it not people opinions of him before Kownacki was that he was a high as a kite no hoper who got lucky and won a title which he then sold off to the highest bidder. But since the Kownacki win, Kownacki's stock has plummeted with the Helenius loss and Martin has done nothing but beat a couple of journeymen and win an eliminator vs Washington. Suffice to say of Kownacki loses again to Helenius confirming the first fight wasn't a fluke, peoples opinion of Martin will again be viewed in a less than stellar light as he couldn't even beat a C lister like Kownacki.

 

I'm not seeing why Martin is such a bad choice. He's been in the ring or won against some decent competition and lost when he truly stepped it up. Whyte could do alot worse for a stay busy match. Edit: I misread it and thought that people were criticizing Whyte for taking the fight. Whyte turning the fight down to instead fight Jermaine Franklin seems like a mistake. Apparently his reasoning is that he believes Franklin is a young and up and coming fighter (as opposed to the older fighters he's been in with recently) and that American fans will get behind.

 

Rudenko and Hunter had this version of Povetkin called " legs gone Povetkin ".
If legs are starting to be gone, no help there.
The same with Haye, in good shape 217 lbs Haye had dealt vs Chisora earlier than bunch with far larger than Haye highly ranked large HW elite boxers.
While Haye with bad legs could not do anything with Bellew who had vacated his title belt and not fought his mandatory in then in prime Briedis. It is what this is there, if legs are gone, fighter is done.

One from accusations vs Povetkin had been traces of meldonium and this is not nor direct nor indirect steroid, does not increase muscle mass or power. This is stuff legally allowed to use in cardiology in all world. Might be used to shorten recovery time after hard training sessions. Punching power or ability to lift more weight? No, it never had been proven to have such effect.
Effect is more like from L carnitine.

37 y.o and older Pov = legless Pov versions.

Also prime Pov versions too needed setup to finish good boxers.
32 y.o Povetkin had fight vs approx 209 lbs prime Huck, where he had also weight advantage and he was not able to finish Huck at all, Huck was more competitive vs him than Hunter vs old, " legless " Povetkin over the hill while being " puny cruiserweight " without water cut for weight ins.
While Pov had finished 235 lbs and 252 lbs boxers younger than he who were known as hard hitting HW boxers.

U need proper setup and preferably to fool an opponent enough to land on him properly. Especially good if you use opponent's mistake and this is reason why approx 202 lber in the ring prime shape and age Glowacki was able to finish Huck in distance and Povetkin had v Huck far more close fight than even Briedis vs Usyk, not alone Huck vs Briedis fight if to compare.

 

Most impressive thing to me is how slim Fury looks in that photo.

 

Bum vs bum

Whyte is a joke

 

Whyte is just an unlikeable jack ass and looks like an uncoordinated spaz. Did anybody see him trying to kick that soccer ball the other day? Unbelievable that a pro boxer like Whyte can't even do something simple like kick a ball LOL

 

Whyte isn’t way above Charles Martin at this point.

Martin was very good in the second half of the Kownacki fight, he was well on top. He also iced Washington who has a win over Hellenius. We didn’t see the real Martin in the AJ fight.

Whyte is showing serious signs of being shop worn. He has been seriously hurt or knocked out in 4 of his last 6 fights.

I would slightly favour Whyte to win 55/45 because he has more fighting heart, volume and aggression.

Martin is still too passive early on in fights. If it’s over 12 then I would give Martin a better chance because he can deceptively wear you down and hurt you. If the Kownacki fight had gone another round he would have got a stoppage for example.

 

Whyte is no Tyson Fury, but he's on another level to that bum Martin.

 

I think Whyte is clearly a level above Martin. Is it a total mismatch? No but Whyte would be a clear favourite.

You only look how they did vs Joshua. Martin stopped in 2, Whyte hurt Joshua and stopped in 7.

Yes Martin redeemed himself a little to give Kownacki a close fight but Kownacki isn't that good as the Helenius KO proves who Whyte beat on a wide decision even though he looked lack lustre in doing so.

Fact is Whyte is a PPV draw and Martin is begging for a fight as if him beating Washington and losing to Kownacki somehow has earned him a shot and a cut of that PPV money. Plus with UK casuals basically only knowing Martin for looking awful vs Joshua, I doubt Martin really brings much casual fan interest.

In terms of who Whyte could face there's a long list of guys who I'd rather see him fight.

Joshua 2
Fury
Wilder
Ortiz
Usyk
Joyce
Hunter
Hrgovic
Ruiz Jr
Chisora 3
Parker 2
Wallin
Gassiev

 

Exactly. Pretty sad that people are hyping Martin now for losing to Kownacki

 

Whyte isn't much better. He's been knocked out cold TWICE.