Dillian Whyte offered big-money deal to AVOID Tyson Fury fight and remain one of Eddie Hearn’s star

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  1. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Guys it is simple.....

    Warren/TR won the purse bid. In order to break even on the show even with Fury doing a deal at $25m they need a million UK PPV buys and close to 100k US PPV buys to have any chance of doing this they need to promote the fight heavily. They need press conferences in UK and US, plus media coverage to training camps etc.

    As standard with pursebids there is a uniform contract that is sent once the bid is won. This does not include or neccesitate any party to be obligated to media commitments and only to turn up to the fight and weigh in etc. This is not the contract Warren and Bob sent to team Whyte after winning the pursebid. The one Whyte recieved included press conference commitments and media appearances which Whyte did not agree with. He turned around and wanted either the standard pursebid contract that is customary in these situations or to be paid for the additional commitments he was being asked to attend.


    A large portion of fighters would just do the press conference etc and not be difficult, but give Whytes relationship to the WBC and Warren he feels he owes them nothing and to be fair hes correct. The pursebid that was won is his pruse to turn up for the fight, anything beyond that is at his discretion.

    Whyte will sign the contract today and has already done so but will try his best to be difficult and rattle some feathers on the way.
     
  2. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He doesn’t think he is winning though does he. That’s the clear takeaway. This is his retirement pot
     
  3. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok that makes sense - thanks for clarifying. I assumed it was the standard contract he was sent
     
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  4. I Shot JR

    I Shot JR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whyte is 34- he eventually needs to fight for a world title. Although the underdog against Fury he’d still has a chance- I don’t think Whyte has a considerably better chance against Joshua or Usyk than against Fury.

    In short, he should take the Fury fight for very good money and see where he stands after the fight- even if he loses he still could fight on for a few years yet.
     
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  5. Donald Donaldson

    Donald Donaldson Member Full Member

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    The official press conferences ARE part of the media commitments and 99% of the time are present in a fight contract as an obligation for both fighters purse bid or otherwise. There is other, additional, optional media work, but the official press conference is part of the contract.

    That aside, there is the very obvious point of how idiotic, unprofessional and bizarre it is to not turn up to the press conference of the biggest fight of your career (if that is what Dillian decides to do).

    I hope he signs the contract, if he does not he loses the mandatory position, and loses the chance to fight for the title, so I'm not sure why it's even a question hopefully this has all been an act and he signs and takes part in the press conferences as he should.
     
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  6. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    As he should. Whyte called Fury a coward for appearing to avoid him, so if Whyte doesn't take the Fury fight after all his talk that he could and would beat Fury, then he becomes the very thing he accused Fury of being. Ironic, really.
     
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  7. BigDoofus

    BigDoofus Active Member Full Member

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    Or will he rattle his own Whyte feathers?
     
  8. Inglorious Bald Trainer

    Inglorious Bald Trainer New Member banned Full Member

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    I'm not sure if my eyes are deceiving me or if you have addressed this elsewhere but it appears that you are are literally omitting revenues generated from all of the commercial partners whose brands are going to be plastered all over the operation from start to finish. Regardless, how do you know how much revenues these streams will generate?
     
  9. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    He still hasn’t signed

    Whyte is gonna look a complete wally from this.

    Any other opponent he fights next unless it’s against wilder or aj or usyk or even h fury will struggle to sell imo

    I only mentioned h fury as that has a spin on things I guess and him beating his cousin sells kind of
     
  10. Inglorious Bald Trainer

    Inglorious Bald Trainer New Member banned Full Member

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    The deadline day is today.

    Of course Whyte will agree to face Fury. It's called negotiating.
     
  11. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That is the fight week press conference. Frank and Arum wanted him to do a press conference in UK and US the week after fight is officially announced. He does not and no pursebid standard contract includes that. If he is currently in camp working towards a April date for the biggets fight of his career, he has no reason to take part in those press conferences. It makes no difference to his purse regardless of whether he attends. They also wanted access to his training camp to create shoulder programming, again this is not required or included as standard.

    We are presuing Whyte is being difficult but do not know if he is being asked for a number of commitments that takes him and his focus away from the biggest fight of his career
     
  12. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Based on the fact that both bids were literally the same figure and anyone with knowledge of the industry know as a guide...

    UK PPV 1m x £25 minus 35% Broadcaster split = circa £16.25m
    Gate at 70,000 with average price of £90 (promoter cut after fees and commisions) = £6.65m
    Overseas non US rights circa £2.5m
    Sponsorships promoter/event share = £750k
    gbp to usd at 1.36 = $35.5m

    US PPV 100k at $75 mius broadcster split at 40% in US = $4.5m

    Total revenue = $40m - minus marketing, venue and undercard costs at circa plus taxes at circa $5m. Leaves $35m minus Whyte purse at $8.2m and Fury at $25m gives you a million or so to play with.
     
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  13. Kennedy

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    Doesn't dillian not just get his purse money regardless if the ppv doesn't generate enough or if it generates twice as much as expected. If that's the case and he signs and stays silent I think that's hilarious. Why should he line Frank's pockets
     
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  14. aaaaa

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    What context is there? Shyte claims he wants his shot, he’s been given his shot (and paid very very well for it).
     
  15. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well the mistreatment from WBC for many years and the change of split rule to so that he gets 20% (the same split as Wallin). The WBC obviously doing everything they can to make Whyte not take the fight.

    That said Whyte is still getting career high purse and has the chance to be world champion. Whyte should just pie off the PR, do the business in the ring and become champion to stick it to WBC rather than cut off his nose to spite his face by turning down the fight.