Dillian Whyte on the True going's on inside Matchroom

Look at the Heavyweight PPV on Sky Box office . People want to see Joshua. Whyte just isn't that popular . Bellew was a bigger draw than Whyte.


Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko 1,532,000
Anthony Joshua vs. Joseph Parker 1,457,000
Anthony Joshua vs. Alexander Povetkin 1,113,000
David Haye vs. Tony Bellew 890,000
Anthony Joshua vs. Carlos Takam 887,000
David Haye vs. Tony Bellew II 775,000
Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew 603,000
Anthony Joshua vs. Dominic Breazeale 512,000
Anthony Joshua vs. Charles Martin 500,000
Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker 474,000
Anthony Joshua vs. Éric Molina 450,000
Dillian Whyte vs. Dereck Chisora II 438,000
Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte 420,000

Stats from Sky Box Office Wikipedia page.


Whyte is entertaining and a massively improved fighter , but he's not the draw he thinks he is. As long as he is getting paid more than the Parker and Chisora fight, hen he cant really grumble too much. Like I have said previously, its not like it a nothing fight , its for 4 titles and he's the challenger.

 

Dillian wider known than Povetkin
Dillian has history with AJ in public media fromfirst fight
Dillian has great PPV success in 2018 with nearly 1 million accumulated buys
Dillian is a public favourite in the UK boxing scene as a contender

AJ vs Povetkin did 1.1 Million PPV sales and AJ vs Parker did 1.5 million PPV sales and both sold out 80,000 Wembley.

Dillian would do same numbers... why wouldn't he? Based on his 2018 success he is MORE popukar than Pov and Parker. The punters will get up to buy tickets and it is a fight they want to see outside of top 3.

1.4 million x 20 = 28 Million?

Plus

80,000 tickets x 78 = 6.2 million

That's over 30.

Lets say 1.2 million buys even... still over 30.

maybe even more tickets extended wembley capacity who knows?

There's your numbers

 

Does Dillian vs Joshua rematch do over 1 million?

Povetkin Molina Parker all fighting names other than the ones liisted would not reach Dillian Whyte Chisora numbers. So he is a notable draw..

 

I don't know. Possibly....
A lot will depend on when the Wilder Fury rematch is. If its within a few weeks of that, then that could well affect the number of buys.

I honestly think Whyte should hold out for maybe a higher offer but he needs to be realistic. If he doesn't fight Joshua in April, then who does he fight ? Does he fight Brazeale in a final WBC eliminator ? I doubt that does near 500,000 buys.

Does he wait for the WBO mando and get their standard 75/25 split in favour on the champion ? Would that be less that what he's being offered now ?

I'd ideally like to see Joshua vs Fury in April but I doubt that's going to happen because it would need 4 months promotion easy. If that doesn't happen then Joshua vs Whyte is my preference. Mainly because the Miller fight will be on silly o'clock in the morning and Miller is just target practice for Joshua in a very one sided fight.

 

Fair points, I think 32.5/67.5 and no more than that for Whyte. And get the fight done.

I know no one wants to see Miller Joshua... that would be a pathetic move.

 

i'd like to see it if the other 3 fights cant be made.
watching miller put on his ass would be fun

 

Yeah I'd like to see Wilder or Fury vs AJ too.

But it looks highly unlikely anytime soon.

So who does that leave for AJ...? It is looking like Miller.

AJ popularity will nose dive as only so many opponent he can take at this stage to uphold his credibility and draw in punters.

He'd basically fob of his UK fans to fight in US for US PPV shares, and a tiny fraction of UK punters that would be dumb enough to stay up for that fight.

AJ himself didn't even stay up to watch Wilder v Fury

 

I dont think it would be that much of an issue if AJ fought Miller, as far as AJ's popularity goes. He'll have had his US debut, likely KOd Miller in less than 6 rounds, and when he comes back to the UK for potential Fury/Wilder unifications the fans will still flock.

And the Whyte rematch will always be there, but it will always be on AJ's terms.

AJ is the money maker.
AJ has already banjoed Whyte.
Whyte hasn't even fought for a world title yet.

You can bring up Whyte's PPV accumulated record in 2018 all you want, but it takes two to tango. Fans flocked to see both fights to watch both Whyte & Chisora, not just Whyte, as he doesn't have that massive fanbase.

Whyte should be careful what he's asking for.

 

Seeing the same pattern here from Hearn regarding Whyte as used with Wilder. Made and offer (low ball), not accepted, good money, he's chosen another route.... etc etc etc

 

Yeah he hasn't got a world title shot because he is getting duck by world titlists.

AJ and Hearn COULD have made it fair and easy, and we've ran the numbers and Whyte is worth more than the offer. End of story.

Now Hearns threats to bump Whyte of WBO mando, should Whyte attempt a purse bid later on... FURTHER wreaks of tension, agitation, hesitation, ducking.

And WIlder aready stated even if Whyte became mando he would make Whyte wait 2 years before a shot.

Text messages.

Whyte offered Wilder 7 million!!!! Apparently Whyte is a 'peasant' and apparently Whyte on this forum 'isn't that good technically' so Wilder went with Fury instead for less money thinking Fury would be easier.

Well Well Well.


I already stated it takes two to tango... but Whyte/Chisora was succesful because IT WAS A GREAT FIGHT!

And if Dilian wasn't involved it would not have been a GREAT FIGHT OF THE YEAR.

Because Chisora wouldn't have got up for anyone else in the same fashion, and Whyte ALWAYS gets up.

So keep denying these points and stick your fingers deep in your ears.

 

oh right so Sky Sports take zero from the PPV cut. Got ya... theres the big hole in your thinking. On top of that thats what an upside is... you do not in any business garuantee anyone more than what you are guaranteed to make. Therefore Hearn will likely give Whyte a base purse of say £4m which he would be guaranteed which works for Matchroom on a minimum of 800k buys. Then the upside If the PPV sells more than 800k buys Whyte get more for each PPV sold. So if it does 1.2m like you suggest. Whyte probably makes another £1m-2m on top. However Whyte likely wants this guaranteed.

I am not saying Whyte doesnt deserve a good payday but for this fight the purse isnt too far off being a fair deal considering AJ sold 1.4m with Parker practically on his own and knows he likely pulls in 800k buys against any opponent therefore does he pay Whyte double what Parker and Povetkin got for maybe 200-300k more buys?

No point discussing any further with you when you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

just a random thought.
if whyte vs chisroa's first fight on the under card of joshua/molina would have been pants and one sided. do u think whytes last fight would have been against a ppv opponent. obviously this is hypothetical but what u reckon? and do u think he would have been more inclined to agree to £4 mill straight away.

 

He should be grateful that he got to serve as AJ's human shield and get a peanuts paydoff offer for a title shot in return.

Ingrate.

 

What?

The **** kind of nonsense did you just spew?

 

It's too difficult too say... what makes a good fight?

They exchanged heavy artillery at an insane pace and no one went down for 12 rounds.

That was fight of the year... despite no KO. The fans loved it.

Had it been one sides and Whyte dominated Chisota convincingly ending with a thrilling KO then yeah... that would have worked too.

If it was like a helenius whyte fight (which wasn't whytes fault btw) then no that would not have sparked interest in the public for an ensuing PPV.

Whyte is who he is because he shows up... he got under the skin of Chisora and Chisora showed up.too. Now you have a great mixture of ingredient.

Parker v AJ was boring as ****.
Parker vs Whyte was very entertaining... the both showed up.

Takes two to tango. Whyte delievers entertainment consistently..and Hearn promotes him well right up until it gets to Hearns cashcow. And lines are drawn in the sand.