Dillian Whyte PED Discussion: Guilty? Not Guilty? Who Cares?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Kratos, Jul 24, 2019.


Do you think Whyte deliberately took a PED?

  1. Yes

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    67.8%
  2. No

    35 vote(s)
    13.7%
  3. Maybe

    29 vote(s)
    11.4%
  4. Who Cares?

    18 vote(s)
    7.1%
  1. Ian_k

    Ian_k Active Member Full Member

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    And he has the audacity to imply and inadvertently say Pacquiao is a drug cheat
    Probably when he found out Whyte s failed test
    Smoke screen if you ask me


     
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  2. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    If there has been no failed test then why hasn't anyone denied it?

    Hearn at the pre-fight press conference said that Whyte being cleared to box was the "miracle of all miracles". That's indicative of the fact that there has been a failed test.

    Thomas Hauser has said he independently verified the story when it was leaked to him and confidently stated that he failed a test for dianabol metabolites.

    I'd say that all of the above is heavily indicative of Whyte failing a test.
     
  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    UKAD and BBBoC couldn't do anything about it? Really? Erm you sure??

    Hearn doesn't need to say anything if there is nothing to say, UKAD and BBBoC have the last and final say on all matters. If they say OK, it means its OK by the book. They have an obligation to speak to the fighters, not Hearn.

    Like Hearn said, he wasn't at the hearing, he isn't involved, he doesn't sit on the panels. You wasn't there either, maybe you should apply to UKAD and BBBoC and shake things up?

    Go complain to them, and stop crucifying Whyte
     
  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    BBBoC

    How the Board Operates
    The Board was created in 1929 and ever since has effectively controlled the professional side of the sport in Britain and Northern Ireland. It operates through seven (7) Area Councils and consists of five (5) Administrative Stewards and seven (7) Representative Stewards (one from each Area). Stewards have equal voting rights.

    The Board has no statutory status and deals only with the professional side of the sport in the United Kingdom. Relations with the Amateur body have been close and have reached a point were genuine liaison and co-operation now seems possible. The Board is fully committed to a friendly association and would welcome outside funding to take medical research forward in the interests of the sport as a whole.

    In the past 30 years the Board has become a leading member of the World Boxing Council, the largest of the world championship organisations. It deplores the continued formation of more and more “world” championships, but has become affiliated with three more, the World Boxing Association, the International Boxing Federation and the World Boxing Organisation, simply to safeguard the interests of its licence holders who seek the commercial opportunities on offer.

    Another important International involvement for the Board is with the European Boxing Union which controls European professional championships. The EBU Ltd. has its administrative office in Rome. The Board is also a member of the Commonwealth Boxing Council.

    The responsibilities of the Board include the licensing of members in all categories stretching from Promoters through Managers and Boxers to everyone directly or commercially involved. This includes the licensing, training and appointments of both Referees and Timekeepers. The Board administers British Championships, Eliminators and English and Celtic Championships with each Area having its own champions. The Stewards are acutely aware of the image of the sport and on many occasions have acted against licence holders alleged to have brought the sport into disrepute.

    The medical and safety sides to the sport are of paramount importance and will be dealt with separately.

    A special legal commission with the Board has revised various of the Board’s contracts from time to time while any appeals against decisions made by the Board or an Area Council go to a panel made up, in the main, of leading barristers and solicitors. These Appeal Stewards are not Directors of the Company and take no part in the running of the Board with the exception of hearing Appeals. They give their services in the interest of boxing and are wholly independant.
     
  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    UKAD investigations


    The 2015 World Anti-Doping Code states that every anti-doping organisation must have the resources to obtain, assess and handle anti-doping intelligence and information.

    UKAD has the capacity and capability to deal with intelligence and actively conducts investigations, some of which are complex and detailed, into suspected doping violations. The team has the ability to conduct research and produce analytical profiles to add value to investigations as well as identify emerging threats and trends.

    Our intelligence work supports us in developing effective testing and investigations strategies and informing other parts of the organisation in the fight against doping.

    Report doping in sport

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  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    UKAD and BBBoC Hearing on the SAME DAY! Whyte vs Rivas CLEARED TO FIGHT. VADA365 NO ADVERSE FINDINGS


    "Canelo just expressed he won't do the WBC VADA 365 testing. Why is he still ranked?"

    Whyte was enrolled, who else was enrolled on VADA365???

    What is VADA 365?

    The Voluntary Anti-Doping Association is an independent organization founded to offer and promote effective anti-doping programs in boxing and mixed martial arts.

    Through voluntary participation, VADA aims to help protect the health and safety of athletes who are willing to demonstrate their commitment to clean sport.

    VADA will provide confidential counseling and referral assistance to athletes at risk for performance enhancing drug and harmful supplement use.

    HE WBC AND VADA WISHES TO INVITE YOU TO ATTEND THE OFFICIAL LAUNCHING OF THE CLEAN BOXING PROGRAM . WBC PRESIDENT , MAURICIO SULAIMAN FROM MEXICO AND VADA PRESIDENT MARGARET GOODMAN WILL MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE MGM MEDIA CENTER ON SATURDAY MAY 7 IN THE COMPANY OF SEVERAL BOXING ICONS WHO ENDORSE THIS LOABLE WORK TO KEEP OUR SPORT CLEAN. PROFESSIONAL BOXING’S FIRST YEAR-ROUND UNANNOUNCED AND RANDOM PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUG TESTING PROGRAM
     
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  7. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Yes he has, and everyone else has well. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about smh.

    Read the bottom of page 9, it's been thoroughly explained.
     
  8. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    im not a whyte fan. just can see his twitter status for what it is.
    read between the lines
     
  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Yes I am SURE. 100%.

    Once a boxer has failed the test on the A sample it is the protocol of the BBBoC to make no sanctions against that boxer until the full process has been played out, which includes the testing of the B Sample (at the boxer's request) and any appeal procedure which follows that, if the B Sample is also positive. That can take months. So using their own protocol, they were unable to take any action, which is why Whyte was 'cleared' to box. UKAD are there for testing only and play no part in any action taken afterwards.

    This is not conjecture. This is fact. You can find this out for yourself if you stopped being so narky and employed that degree-educated brain of yours.

    The fact Hearn was not on the panel is meaningless. He could - arguably should - have taken the arbitrary decision to pull Whyte from the fight to avoid the risk - legal and physical - that a potentially juiced fighter might harm his opponent. If not withdraw Whyte, he should have told Rivas and left the decision with him. He did neither and NOTHING was stopping him doing so.
     
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  10. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    im not here to bicker like a child. just saying what i see. you obviously have that ability.
    anyways im at work. something you need to invest in.
     
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  11. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    I have read between the lines and what is apparent is that he hasn't denied that Whyte failed a drug test. Hearn gave a near 25 minute interview yesterday on IFL and also did not deny that Whyte has failed a drug test.
     
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  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I quote the law, and you add nothing to the debate in two replies. Who's the child here? But I can see you're looking for an out... so I'll give you that one...
     
  13. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    fair play bud
     
  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    You are talking about sanctioning, the crux of ALL these threads, calling Whyte and Hearn scumbags risking the health of Rivas.... then what the hell are these boards and panels doing???? What organisation looks after the health of the opponents and the fighters??????????????????

    Certainly not the promoters, you think the promoters are tasked with this responsibility?????????

    WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HEALTH OF BOXERS AND GREENLIGHTING FIGHTS TO GO AHEAD?
     
  15. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    lol yeah yeah

    honestly though i just cba.

    your the GOAT. there i said it