Dillian Whyte PED Discussion: Guilty? Not Guilty? Who Cares?

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Do you think Whyte deliberately took a PED?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    35 vote(s)
    13.7%
  3. Maybe

    29 vote(s)
    11.4%
  4. Who Cares?

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  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whyte was popped for dbol, two metabolites. Matchroom was notified on the 17th, but VADA/WBC/Rivas were not due to UKAD/BBBoC protocol which deviates from standard WADA Code which is to notify WADA, then everyone else. Hearn did nothing with this info and the fight was allowed to continue. Day of fight, before fight Whyte was in trial appealing his case. Because of their backwards assed protocol, they allowed him to fight instead of stopping it. They as in UKAD/BBBoC. This news only came out cuz someone in UKAD, a whistleblower contacted Thomas Hauser from Bscene, where he broke the story. Now everyone knows Hearn's little secret.
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    that is truly the saddest thing i have ever read on this site. im not being dramatic. the fact the you are a doctor, and your mind is so easily swayed by emotion that you constantly make an ass of yourself because of it, really makes me sad for what the rest of the supposed educated world must be like.
     
  3. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lmao, that's a doctor you put on avoid at all costs never mind that I find it implausible with the way he post dumbass stuff that he's a real life doctor.
     
  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Are you not impressed he is a doctor?.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Good post, thanks.

    Any idea about the B?
     
  6. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These are the two facts that create the gravest exposure for Hearn and UKAD, respectively. All the talk about mandatory status, gloves, etc., has no bearing relative to these two pieces of information. The questions to me are:

    1) Did Hearn have a duty, as the promoter of the fight on domestic soil against a foreign opponent, to inform Rivas of the positive result?

    2) Assuming UKAD complied with its own protocols, did UKAD negligently enact those protocols?

    I can tell you that, in the United States, each defendant would face robust litigation and likely would be forced into a substantial settlement.
     
  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    1. No

    2. No
     
  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fwiw, Whyte requested the B sample test.
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1) should never have happened. Think of it like election tampering. Just having the info is against the law, or in this case unethical. He chose to capitalize on it instead of going the WBC or telling Rivas. It's not his duty to notify them, but then again he should never have been the only entity to be notified. It shows that he is shady as F and willing to cut big corners.

    2) They devised this protocol on their own. This is not a standard protocol because it defeats the whole point of testing in the first place. These protocols seem Medieval, and clearly benefits the UK players. I think its beyond negligent!
     
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  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He can't be responsible for passively receiving the information. Unless he sought it out somehow, the question is whether his omission gives rise to liability. So, did he have a duty to act? In the U.S., this probably would be a triable issue but no clear cut answer.

    I agree with your second point. It's difficult to reconcile the purpose of drug testing and sanctions when a protracted appeals process can leave an unsuspecting opponent in the dark, *especially* when the industry custom would be to inform the opponent.
     
  11. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No where does it say he has to notify anyone. But he had insider information, informed that Whyte failed testing. Once he was improperly informed, he did nothing. He let a crime unfold. I dunno what the UK is like but with Good Samaritan laws... I can see a lot of culpability because he was the one to benefit from this illegal PPV. Illegal in the sense that had the WBC been notified, they would have not sanctioned the fight.
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I don’t know about all of that. What I do know is that I have emotional control over you, specifically.
     
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  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    im sad that what should be a solid representation of a logical and scientific mind, is such a jumble of neurosis, that half his thoughts are emotion driven. peoples health are dependent on this teen girls ability to think logically.
     
  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    May god have mercy on his patients, amen.
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I’m 20+ patients deep this morning and about to eat lunch.