Dillian Whyte tests positive for banned substance

Glad you cleared that one up Sherlock.....So Whyte will either get banned or not then?

 

UK(sh)AD(y).

As in shady af.

 

Getting smarter I see, one day your mother might let you tie your own shoelaces......

 

A very basic piece only dealing with the facts and it's spot on. Imagine arguing against any of those points.

I can handle Hearn telling us Lomachenko/Campbell is a competetive fight and bigging up bums/mismatches etc. I suppose that's his job and he does it well. However, making an argument and trying to drum up support in favour of the fact Rivas' team weren't informed of a failed drug test is despicable. As is brushing the glove saga under the carpet. I don't believe Whyte tampered with the gloves but it creates an environment where gloves can be tampered with. It's wrong, and needs to be called as wrong. Hearn has reached the point where he will literally say anything to suit his agenda and seeing as how he's one of the biggest players in the game who does interviews at every opportunity, it makes him a dangerous man.

I used to warm to Hearn at times but I'll never look at him the same again. Honestly, I think the man is a scumbag! No morals left, the game has eaten him up and turned him into a dirtbird.

 

This is absolutely stupid on so many levels, but to your credit at least you’re now being honest and you’re not scraping the barrel with excuses in which to defend him.

 

If UKAD can't be transparent for the duration of this case and deliver a satisfactory outcome they should be folded up altogether. They are responsible for the safety of the fighters in the UK and appear powerless in their duties.

What exactly have they learned from the Tyson Fury case? Surely it's black and white - fighter fails drug test, fighter gets banned, everybody moves on. What's complicated about it? If fighters want to go to court, surely the results of a failed drug test (sample A and B) is the only evidence UKAD ever need. I understand why the Fury case was a shambles - 'elevated levels' evolving into a failed test a year later, that's not a strong case. Surely they can't drop the ball here again?

 

Of course there's a chance.

There's a chance the Brexit will turn out great for everyone involved within a couple of months.
There's a chance we both win the lottery next month.
There's a chance UKAD and the BBBoC have always been completely on the level about everything.
There's a chance that British judges and referees have always tried to be as fair as humanly possible with foreigners.

It's all very, very unlikely though....

 

I don’t think they have any intention of getting sample B checked, mate. It’s not good publicity to have that done. Instead, they’ll be paying their lawyers to trawl through the small print and build a case against UKAD which will scare them off. There’s even a possibly that this drags on till Christmas and then we may once again see a compromise in the form of a backdated 6 month ban. They can then say ‘well Canelo & Miller got 6 months and their’s was well worse’.

It’s an absolute farce. UKAD simply don’t have the financial clout against the cash rich fighters. Your domestic, area level type fighters will be hammered with 2 year bans for the same offence because they can’t afford that level of lawyers.

 

(**This post was taken from another forum** - I think it hits the mark rather well. )

This is a lateral coordinated white-washing ...

The Promoters, Commissions, and the so-called testing organizations must think everyone is stupid or complete idiots.

Why announce that VADA was completed, as if to suggest, when UKAD fudge the "B" sample that every things fine now. Nothing to see here .....

That's why the UKAD is delaying their revelations about the "B" sample, which is actually a duplicate of the "A" sample without all the mumbo, jumbo BS.

So now are we to believe that since VADA completed their tests and didn't find anything, that the "A" sample exposed by UKAD was a false positive?!?!?!

This is complete BS - What's going on here is two-fold.

1.) UKAD finding a positive result that VADA missed in their testing exposes the completely ineffective testing methods utilized by VADA and 2.) If that is the case then UKAD cannot be complicit in exposing both Whyte and VADA in a single stroke ....... The repercussions would be monumental. And the financial losses would be felt by the Promoters, the Commissions, the testing organizations etc.

Therefore, a complete cover-up and white-washing of the truth is needed and necessary.

 

£2.1b for propaganda and making sure we don't all die.

Cracking concept

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Whyte's lawyers delay things for as long as possible. Fury managed it, but he also ended up out of the ring for a long time.

Hopefully UKAD learnt their lessons and are able to push it through. Personally, I think the sport's governing bodies should institute a time limit for athletes to agree on or reject Sample B testing.

 

I've never defended him.

I don't know if he's guilty anymore than anyone else does.

All I said is that he was cleared to fight and I didn't feel they needed to inform Rivas.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about.

My favourite sport besides boxing in cycling, theres cases such as Lance Armstrong who I would like to jarell miller - a blatant cheat.

Then there was a case where Chris froome tested positive for having salbutamol in his system....more than was allowed basically.

But the clever doctors and lawyers managed to present a case where they could prove it was possible to have tested positive for this and not have actually taken it. I don't know how it's far too medically advanced for me, something to do with how the liver can produce it in certain circumstances etc...I don't know...they managed to beat the case anyway...

So my point is he could have been guilty and they have managed to get away with it , or he could have been innocent and that's what really happened. We will never know.

This could happen with whyte is all I'm saying. Potentially...we don't now but just a possibility.

So for me the question isn't did he cheat or not. It's kind of irrelevant....

The question is will he or can he get away with it if he did...that's gonna depend on what the substance is and how clever his defence are.

 

You saved me writing out the same thing.
He's failed a test. We need answers for the failed test. Passing other tests have nothing to do with it. Eddie must be loving this

 

I don't know how anyone can think he's innocent, he's been caught cheating before and he just oozes roids.

 

The significance of other test results is that they can be used as a potential defence against an AAF. In certain circumstances, AAFs can be explained as potentially natural readings, by reference to other measurements on the same athlete.

I don't know enough about Whyte's case to know whether this is either a) a base for their defence or is b) in any way plausible. Unless they have information that has not been made publically available, I don't think any of us are really in a position to make that call.

It's fair to say that the most probable explanation for Whyte's AAF is that he was deliberately cheating. However, this has not been conclusively proven as of yet, and he is entitled to an opportunity to provide an explanation and for that to be assessed on its merits.

The problematic issue at this point is that a fighter, who has returned a positive and not been cleared, has been allowed to fight without the other fighter being made aware, or the governing body sanctioning the title fight. While this may not contravene the rules, allowing a fighter who has returned an AAF which has a strong chance of leading to a doping suspension, to fight without the other party being made aware is ethically shady. It could also be legally suspect if challenged in the courts, regardless of what a sport's rules state. It's not too much of a stretch to see manslaughter cases in the event of a ring fatality.