Dillian Whyte tests positive for banned substance

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by wallworkjake123, Nov 6, 2012.


Is Dillian is innocent?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Who Cares?

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  1. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’ll also remind people of his own failed tests...sensible to keep stuhm.
     
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  2. KermitTheFrog

    KermitTheFrog The people doing the banning are idiots Full Member

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    The conversation here tends to be more like a chat in a pub, not giving evidence in a high profile murder case.

    You set your stall out early with that juvenile post about the tone of this place so at least we got the measure of you.
     
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  3. Citizen Smith

    Citizen Smith Active Member Full Member

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    The measure will be in the contribution. Lets see how you get on.
     
  4. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I aint saying Whyte is innocent and trace amounts need to come from somewhere but anyone trying to equate trade amounts with Miller getting on HGH and doing EPO needs their head testing.
     
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  5. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why?

    Dbol isn't some grey area stimulant or cutting agent... It's an anabolic steroid.

    It's just as bad as anything Ruiz took.
     
  6. alpo1

    alpo1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dbol and deca are daddy steroids (deca was a bit dumb for the furies to have allegedly used though, as its half life is very long, unless they used the short ester version).

    there was a move towards designer steroids in the balco era but I think that might've stopped as new steroids have more sides vs gains when you compare them to the original steroids like dbol (which has decades of research behind it).

    however, nowadays it seems that micro dosing test, hgh, insulin and maybe stuff like epo is the way they go about it. as they are naturally occurring, so can be masked better. then they might add micro doses of short half-life compounds like dbol (maybe with masking agents).
     
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  7. Kennedy

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    The longer the silence of what the traces where and what happened at the hearing the more damaging it is doing to Whytes career. Simple as that.
     
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  8. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on....Winstrol has always been a favourite of a lot of boxers but as Heavyweights dont need to make weight they can use the big boy drugs...

    Didnt Whyte come in 10 pounds heavier than his last fight even though he was fighting a smaller guy?...bit of a red flag there too imo
     
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  9. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    UKAD is a public organisation right? If so surely we can make a freedom of information request to establish what was discussed at Whyte’s hearing?
     
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  10. Scissors

    Scissors Posts are sponsored by Matchroom Full Member

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    Dean Whyte just asked for your address.
     
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  11. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    No bother I’ve whatsapped him Big Shane Fury’s caravan location on google maps.
     
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  12. Citizen Smith

    Citizen Smith Active Member Full Member

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    It's a government funded one as far as I believe, which means our taxes go towards it.

    Am not sure about the FOI, though under GDPR guidelines Rivas has the right to see documents and emails which contain his personal info (name etc). We may never see what went on, but he can.
     
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  13. NasalSpray

    NasalSpray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Trace amounts means that the drugs were probably used before training and VADA testing begun. Remember Whyte "turned down" AJ on April 13th? I wonder why :lol:
     
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  14. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some departments are exempt from FOIs and also certain things are too. Imagine doping cases are one...
     
  15. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it was trace amounts as is being reported then pay attention to the paragraphs in bold. As far as I can work out from UKAD procedure they have bought this forward as a failed test.

    From UKAD:

    "Review of Atypical Finding

    Upon receipt of an A-Sample Atypical Finding, UKAD will determine whether:

    • a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) has been granted
    • there has been a departure from the International Standard for Testing and Investigations or International Standard for Laboratories that may have caused the Atypical Finding
    If the review does not reveal a TUE or departure that caused the Atypical Finding, further investigation will take place.

    Typically, we will not notify the athlete of an Atypical Finding until we have completed the investigation and decided whether to bring the Atypical Finding forward as an Adverse Analytical Finding

    On conclusion of the further investigation, we will advise the athlete as to whether or not there is evidence of the administration of a prohibited substance and / or method.

    If there is no evidence, then no further action will be taken. If there is evidence of administration, UKAD will report the Atypical Finding as an Adverse Analytical Finding."


    It's fairly obvious the media silence is to allow them to prepare a defence which will either consist of damage limitation (reduced ban) or charges dropped.
     
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