Dillian Whyte vs John Ruiz

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  1. Devon

    Devon Active Member Full Member

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    Who wins this matchup?
     
  2. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd go with Ruiz. A better technician with a better jab and greater workrate. People underrate Ruiz because he wasn't exciting. He was very very effective
     
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This belongs on ESPN Friday night fights. Probably a draw
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I’ll go with Ruiz.
     
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  5. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’ll take Whyte. He was on very good run before Povetkin. Ruiz could maul but lot of his wins were iffy, the oquendo fight was maybe the quickest stoppage I’ve seen, He lost to Toney before it was turned over to a nc. I thought he lost close to Golota, and his Kirk Johnson fight was a mess.
     
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  6. pernellaaron

    pernellaaron Active Member Full Member

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    Whyte can certainly be lethargic at times and Ruiz's "style" gets fighters out of any type of rhythm. They fight nothing alike but I could see it similar to Rahman vs Ruiz were the better fighter is jabbed, grabbed, smothered and does nothing of note over 12. Would be hoping for a Tua-esque ko and Whyte definitely has the power for it.
     
  7. Zakman

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    Whyte. His whiskers aren't the greatest, but that fraud Ruiz didn't hit hard enough to take advantage of it. Whyte is a legitimate contender, whereas Ruiz is one of the most illegitimate beltholders, as virtually all of his "victories" over mostly rather ordinary HW contenders were gained due to incessant violation of the rules against excessive holding, violations that his connections with Don King allowed him to get away this.

    Even worse, the "victories" over Johnson and in the second Holyfield fight were "achieved" due to overacting when hit with borderline body shots to get key "low blow" point deductions, or in the case of Johnson a bogus DQ "win." Again the connections with King brought favorable treatment from refs for these shameful tactics.

    And then there was the outrageous gift decision against Golota, where Ruiz hit the deck twice and got a rare point deduction for his blatantly illegal tactics, and yet somehow got the decision. King's influence clearly extended to judges here, as it did in other fights at this time.

    No contest, Whyte knocks this fraudulent CHEATER out.
     
  8. Glass City Cobra

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    Whyte gets outboxed and smothered for about 9 rounds in an ugly bout before his left hook lands and ices Ruiz.
     
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  9. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I haven't cared much for Whyte, but is much more appealing to watch than Ruiz. I almost forgot how much I loathed Ruiz and his style, but you made a beautifully succinct summary of his career and chumpionship run. What Ruiz did in the ring was not fighting.
     
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  10. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Guido Full Member

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    Ruiz was no great champion but he was a far more proven fighter than Whyte
     
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  11. Zakman

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    It is important for boxing fans to be aware of what an outrageous rule-violator this guy was, and how fraudulent his career "accomplishments" are - as mediocre as they are anyway. Without King, Ruiz is a regional journeyman who got knocked out by David Tua, period.

    And in a fair fight, any decent contender - including Whyte - knocks him out, just like Tua did. Ruiz and King knew this, which is why in any fight against decent fighters, Ruiz cheated blatantly, and King's influence got officials to look the other way. Ruiz is the poster boy for boxing corruption in the late 90s and early 2000s.
     
  12. NoNeck

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    The irony of calling Ruiz a cheater when being matched against Whyte. At least Ruiz was clean of PEDs.
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Ruiz would take it. Ruiz managed to beat Holyifeld and Rahman, but Whyte struggled a lot with Chisora, who is sort of a poor man's Ruiz. Whyte doesn't have **** on Holyfield and Rahman.
     
  14. Glass City Cobra

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    I don't get how come forward aggressive Chisora resembles the cautious Ruiz.
     
  15. NoNeck

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    They're both dirty, come forward fighters. Similar size. Ruiz was better.