Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker & Dereck Chisora vs. Carlos Takam RBR.

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  1. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ destroyed him once and would destroy him again, Wilder would put him to sleep, Povetkin stops him and Usyk outclasses him. And Whyte was lucky to get the decision tonight as well, Parker would have won easy if he wasn't so lazy in so many rounds.
     
  2. OpinionOfACasual

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    Or it was the bodyshots don't discount them.

    He seemed to have his hands down and haunched over very early, as if to protect the body.
     
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  3. N17

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    Yeah I'll have to watch it back, maybe Whyte was just too good for him.

    It was a little bit of a strange performance from Parker though, came out sharp and fast, went missing and then went for it with 2 minutes to go and almost caused a sensation.

    Parker is only 26 years old, back to back points defeats isn't the end of the world, he can go away and come again.

    Whyte Vs Joshua II is a fight I'd like to see next April if Wilder doesn't get signed.
     
  4. OpinionOfACasual

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    Something changed after round 1 imo.

    Was it the clash of heads?
    Was it a mental thing of being shocked he went down?
    Was it the bodyshots?

    He was blowing so hard really early that I have to give credit to the 'Bodysnatcher' who did exactly that.
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There were from those who know a bit about boxing a few folk who said at the time that AJ was likely to struggle and not look very good against Takam on account of him training for a big guy(was it Pulev?)in as much as it’s supposed to be difficult punching down on a man?
    I don’t have the expertise on this as I’ve never laced a glove up but I can imagine this being the case and funny enough that’s exactly what we got from AJ v Takam,in control all fight but a bit awkward and like you say he never really got the chance to show his power.

    That said I take your point and wouldn’t be surprised to find that Whytes left hook is more powerful than Joshua,really though we probably splitting hairs.
     
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  6. OpinionOfACasual

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    Can't help but think the second time Parker went down (First legally), it actually was a negative for Whyte.

    He was destroying Parker to the body so badly that Parker couldn't even throw.....

    Then Whyte went for the head more, which gave Parker a second wind due to have more recovery time from less body shots.
     
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  7. Somachenko

    Somachenko The Matador Team Full Member

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    Randy Orton is basically the same ****, except they’ve now introduced people that have even less personality and who are even more of corporate bores
     
  8. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    According to certain people here, you can say "who did he beat?" about any current HW. There are people here that think Joshua's resume is bad even though it's the best today. Basically these guys can fight and beat each other, and there are still people here that are gonna say yeah but "this and this and this, and who did he beat." I thought the first KD was BS too, but if anyone won this fight imo it was clearly Whyte. Take away the BS KD and that round gets scored to Parker making it a draw, but it doesn't work that way, otherwise Loma would have beat Salido by decision or DQ because Orlando should have had points deducted or been DQ'ed for his over the top lowblows. Just because something in this sport is bs and shouldn't have happened doesn't change the outcome, Loma lost and Whyte won.
     
  9. rorschach51

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    Right, he would have won if he hadn't lost, got it.
     
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  10. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Whyte wouldn’t make it past the Cuban so sloppy. Ortiz makes it a quick night
     
  11. N17

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    Yeah, I suppose all fighters have a story or reason for average or bad performances and loses, most fighters carry little injuries and yeah if you've trained for a certain type of fighter and then you get a replacement who is very different then I would imagine it can be difficult.

    I think Whyte is a very different proposition for Joshua now, when they fought the first time Joshua has been fighting with all the benefits of sports science, top training facilities and great backing with a great team.

    Whyte didn't have all that, he was out the ring for 2 years for failing a drugs test, came back and within 13 months fighting AJ.

    Whyte is now using people like strength and conditioning coaches and dieticians and using top facilities and has more knowledgeable and better people around him.

    Also it's well known Whyte was injured with AJ, he had surgery after the AJ fight and then out the ring for another 6 months.

    I'm not suggesting for a minute Whyte beats Joshua, Joshua himself will have and in my opinion has improved and has more big fight experience but Whyte is a more dangerous opponent now than he was back then.
     
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  12. Angler Andrew

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    Totally disgusting and I said at the time and have stood by this,that all the A side bull **** what with the Ref,AJs loose tape on his gloves and just the fact that him and Hearn are talking about their next opponent before they’ve even fought the one on the night has done it for me.
    Quite simply I was a big fan who’d watched every fight of his since turning pro and just from one fight I couldn’t care less about him anymore.
    Shame really ,forgot to mention that he’s also not the exciting guy I was fan of.Takam I understood on short notice but the way he fought Parker ala Wlad under Emanuel Steward,dare I say it was even worse and correct me if I’m wrong but I’m sure the Ref told em to calm down lol,CST80 believes this is why he and Hearn can talk about their next opponent cause even with a guy like Povetkin he’s gonna have a Ref that only allows em to fight at range and anything other than a jab he’ll jump on,meaning AJ accumulates more points than Povetkin and a job well done.
    I’d be interested to know if the other AJ fans on here are ok with this as I personally think it’s disgusting and re the A side queen in boxing Canelo Álvarez I’m at odds why his rabid fan base and those on here don’t think the same about Canelo as this A side thing is a scourge on the sport as we can’t believe what we’re viewing anymore.

    Lol ok rant over,apologies for long post but you came across with the same disgust about that fight and Ref.
     
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  13. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The ref is always gonna be bias towards the A side. That’s why guys who are the B Side need to make it a dog fight generally speaking. After Whyte started getting dirty Parker should have gotten dirty. If he’s not callig **** then man up and do the same ****. That’s why I don’t care about people bitching. It’s a fight treat it as such. AJ will never be in a dog fight like G-Sora and Takam tonight
     
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  14. Angler Andrew

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    Lol some posts on here beggers belief,like you say didn’t AJ knock Whyte out cold?
    Just maybe he was referring to Whyte beating Parker an opponent AJ also beat and whislt most of us know comparing the two fights and results is not very relative to anything since they both tackled Parker in different ways.
     
  15. Staminakills

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    Are you trying to claim you really scored round by round AND has parker winning???
    C'mon now child