Dillian Whyte would KO Wilder

Meh. I'm not playing the blame game at all. I couldn't GAF honestly. Wilder just doesn't fight decent enough comp or nearly as regularly as his multi year WBC reign should IMO require. Whoever's fault that is I don't care. Everyone has an equal chance to fight meaningful fights and the rest of the division is leaving Wilder behind rapidly in terms of relevancy.

I think the WBC champ should, within 18 months, fight one of: AJ, Fury, Whyte, Parker, Povetkin, MIller or Hughie Fury. I don't think that's a big ask really, I'm sure the mentioned fighters will have multiple fights amongst themselves. I'll listen to the Wilder hype if and when he joins the party.

 

That's why he's trying to fight Fury and you're still crying about him not fighting opposition.

Nothing he can do if the opponents fail drug tests or are through and through cowards.

You need to stop pointing the finger at Wilder and start point your fingers at the duckers and ped cheats.

 

Again, I would like to point out the glaringly obvious distinction between TRYING to have fights and actually fighting.
How many YEARS and, yes, it is YEARS, will Wilder be able to float along as 'Champ' with his sub-par resume whilst people give him a pass because "He woulda-shoulda-coulda if it wernt for Eddy/Drugs/El Nino/ insert relevant excuse"

Peh. Box first, respect as Champion later. Same rules for everyone.

 

What do you want him to do? Physically drag these men by the neck into the ring with him?

GGG's resume is no different due to fighters doing no shows, dropping their pens or waiting to age him out.

I'd assume you must have no respect for GGG.

 

Uh, Wilder is FAR from the GGG of the HW division! Jeez-arse.....put the pipe down Sep....F me....
I suppose you would equate an Ortiz fight and, not actually doing any boxing, but er, really really trying to fight Tyson Fury with back to back fights against Canelo?
Is that the parallel you're trying to draw??? I'm not buying.

Would you give me props for really, really trying honestly for years and years to fight the best of the HW division?
The proof of the pudding is in the tasting and Wilder ain't baked $hit....YET! (FWIW I hope he does.)

 

So clearly you have no consistency.

GGG's resume is just as paper thin. That there is no question. The only standout is Jacobs and Canelo. The former wasn't even on the same level as GGG's level. So one truly elite fighter in Canelo and you think that justifies his resume?

Let's not forget the canelo fight came close not happening the first time because Canelo and Oscar were hell bent on dragging it out until they were satisfied that GGG had slowed down enough.

If that was Wilder in GGG's position, you'd be on his case like a baby's rash.

Until you can be honest yourself and stop with the double standards, you're not going to come out looking good in these kind of discussions as I will expose your hypocrisy

 

Nope. Bullpap. No double standards here and I'll explain why:

GGGs resume is not as thin. Jacobs parallels well with Ortiz, sure. Where on Earth is the Canelo parallel for Wilder in the HW division??? Your accusation of inconsistency is on thin ice unless you equate two fights against Stiverne as equal in standing to two fights for GGG against Canelo.

You are the hypocrite (since you were accusing me of pointing blame at Wilder) for deflecting this off onto Triple G! So please feel free to answer the question: If Wilder's Ortiz win = GGGs Jacobs win (I think that's reasonable)
then where the hell is Wilder's equivalent of the Canelo fight? Never mind the fact that in 1 month GGG will have two fights against his #1 contender. Wilder is a million miles off the pace!

Additionally, inconsistency is not the same as hypocrisy. Only a loser in the argument ever tries to assert such a thing.

"The only really consistent people are the dead."

 

Fury the lineal Champion and Ortiz is equal to Jacobs and Canelo.

Why don't you some me your posts blaming GGG for not having any names on his resume before the Jacobs and Canelo fights occurred

Go on Mr consistency let's see those posts of your's where you blamed GGG for not taking any risks after he failed to secure fights with Ward, Eubank, Froch and Mayweather.

Let's see if you are consistent or if you have an agenda.

 

I don't know why everyone here hates Whyte, he could very well knock Wilder out. I underestimated him vs Parker, I'm not doing it again.

 

Christ on a bike. Ward, Froch and Mayweather??????? None of them are or were 160 fighters and Eubanks ran so hard theres no question there.

Andyouve just named Fury again, He hasnt fought Wilder. The guy is saying he will give Wilder props when hes fought these fights, hes not blaming anybody for anything he hears you saying Wilder is trying but he cant give Wilder credit for doing something when he is trying to do it but hasnt yet done it.

 

I believe that you are in danger of hitting the self-destruct button here.
Look, I like your posts and contributions, you like boxing and I am glad of it.

Perhaps in hindsight you may read the above again and realise it's tilting pretty far away from the reality of the HW division. I feel that we have reached an impasse in the shape of GGGs resume which I have no real interest in discussing.

I certainly don't see my inability to defend GGG (which needs no doing IMO) as in any way relevant to Wilder and his non-fights.

Good luck to Wilder I say, I'd like to see him in the squared circle giving all-comers hell.

As I say, I won't hold my breath....

He could be the first boxer I know of to actually be a past-prime, Multi-year Champ before he faces a truly relevant contender!

 

He's disliked because he's let the hype go to his head and started believing he's something whilst not realising he's being used as a pawn.

This digusting sense of entitlement without doing the work of doing what has been ordered to him by the WBC

He had one great knockout against a clinically depressed, psychotropic medicated and morbidly obese inactive Lucas Browne that had been out of the ring for years and scrapped past a lazy poorly conditioned and unmotivated Joseph Parker after the ref helped carry him through the 12 rounds by ruling a questionable knock down on Parker and holding up him in the 12 round so he could finish the fight and now he's a monster of the HW division!

This guy ducked Pulev, ducked Ortiz and wants to get in the way of a unification fight when he still got unfinished business with Chisora who beat him down like an unruly child.

 

Nobody hates Whyte, he just isn't going to beat Wilder.

There is a difference fighting against Parker, a guy without any ferocity who fights to the level of his opponent, almost struggled with everyone he fought and going into the ring with Wilder who knocked every fighter he has ever faced out and who is coming to put you in a body bag.

Whyte got knocked down by Parker because he ran out of gas, Wilder has an excellent gas tank and carries his
power for the full distance, also he has shown against Ortiz that he can take a good punch, Whyte would have
a small punchers chance, a very small one, that's about it.

 

The WBC told him to fight Ortiz for a SECOND mandatory spot behind Breazeale!

How could he possibly walk away from such an amazing reward just to fight Parker for millions of pounds??

You're off the top high board of sanity with this thread Sephiroth, going back over it does make quite a funny read though. Top marks to you for effort : )

 

There's a difference between actually fighting boxing matches and having excuses as a substitute.

Unfortunately, this is a distinction Wilder nut-huggers fail to recognise.