Dillian Whyte would KO Wilder

fury was juicing and the fight was one of the worst title fights ever. neither guy did squat. then fury ran from the career high payday, contracted rematch, twice.

 

Wlad is always in shape, he's a alpha male, but that doesn't take away the flowing facts no matter how you want to spin them.

1. Wlad was 41yo and inactive.

2. Fury beat the "better" Wlad.

3. Fury albeit being out of shape and inactive is now back, active and he's still young.

 

I'm not bragging at all about the Allen win you utter imbecile but here you are degrading Ortiz when he did a brutal dismantling of Allen the same Allen Whyte couldn't even hurt.

Whyte ain't beating him that's why he went the much easier Parker route.

 

1. True

2. Half true

3. Still doesn't change the fact he was obese and sniffing the good stuff for 2 years.

 

God just because I said someone hasn't proved themselves doesnt mean I am saying they are trash. Ortiz is good, but not a "boogeyman" or a world beater. he will be forgotten in 2 years. End of. Stop.

 

If he's not a world beater then what do you class as a world beater?

He'd be the second best fighter on AJ'S resume prior to Povetkin if he had faced him by now.

 

Wlad

Povetkin

Whyte/Ortiz/Parker

would look like that, unless Ortiz can go on and improve his resume. IMO a world beater is the champ or man who dethrones him.

 

Whyte arguably lost to Chisora and has looked like **** beating Helenius, Allen and Parker has looked crap since the Ruiz fight.

A fighter makes the belt, not the other way round. Parker was a soft champion who fought soft opposition and I guarantee will never be a champion again.

Ortiz is a better scalp than Whyte or Parker and remember Whyte went with the easier option which was Parker than face Ortiz.

 

Why is Ortiz a better scalp than Whyte? come on, tell me why. Based on what they have done, give me a solid reason.

 

Ortiz is the better fighter period and his victories over Jennings, old Thompson and even Scott trump Helenius (who had been stopped in 6 previous by Duahaupas, a WILDER VICTIM), old shot, fat Browne and Chisora a fight he arguably lost....Parker was a weak champion and it was a close fight between 2 C level fighters.

Whyte isn't all that good hence him ducking Ortiz for Parker.

Ortiz beat common opponent in Allen much better.

Duhaupas beat Helenius much more clinically.....Duhaupas lost to Wilder.

Ortiz beat Cojanu much better than Parker.

Ortiz beat Jennings much more impressively than Wlad.

Chisora arguably beat Whyte yet lost badly to Fury, Pulev and GKTFO off Haye....he also got beat off Kaybayel more impressively than Whytes drunken,brawling boxing.

Sorry I was late replying I'd nipped out for an hour ferreting dry stone walls near me.

 

I don't think Whyte ducked Ortiz, he just took a more attractive option. Headlining at the 02 on UK PPV with a shortened pathway to a shot at AJ is a better bet than less money against Ortiz with only a 'second mandatory' shot at Wilder sometime in the next 3 years. No brainer really.

 

You've got a good point. I think Hearn wouldn't want Whyte going anywhere near Ortiz as a loss would scupper the AJ rematch that he's been plugging since their first fight. Also as you say Parker is a name here due to the AJ fight and with Whyte winning Hearn gets his rematch and mega money fight.

Ortiz beats Whyte and non of the above would of happened.

 

I can see Whyte KO'ing Wilder early.

- Wilder has avoided the power punchers like the plague.

- Wilder has never fought anyone as physically strong as Whyte and I could see Whyte roughing Wilder up and Wilder struggling to cope with the physicality similar to Parker for the majority of their fight.

- Wilder notoriously starts slow against anyone with a bit of quality ( Spzilka and Fury foot work, Washingtons jab and Ortiz counterpunching). Whyte has very good jab, goes to the body well, uses his physical strength well and probably has the best left hook in the divison.

 

To say Whyte or Stiverne or Miller is the same thing. Maybe Whyte ducks a bit better than the other two. However too easy to hit for Wildr.

 

Agreed. Roided to gills Whyte that I saw against Rivas gets KOd later in the fight after holding his own for several rounds and giving Wilder a few scary moments.

Unroided Whyte(which was probably the one that we saw in the first Chisora fight where he was very lucky to get the nod) gets annihilated.

From another thread.