Dillion Whyte - "Heavyweight boxing is a joke"

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  1. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    So bored of this guy and his whinging.
    Didn't fight an eliminator against Ortiz; didn't fight one against Pulev; turned down the AJ fight when it was offered anyway; said why should he fight Usyk when no one has heard of him, then signs to fight Rivas.

    Really should have taken the AJ fight. Wilder ices him badly and Fury toys with him.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dillian Whyte hasn't been the WBC mandatory for two years.

    Dillian Whyte has never been the WBC mandatory contender.

    The WBC ordered a Luis Ortiz-Dillian Whyte eliminator in May 2018, after the thrilling fight between Wilder and Ortiz (as some fans were complaining Ortiz got cheated) and Whyte refused the fight.

    The WBC ordered a Whyte-Fury eliminator a two months ago, and Fury refused it (because he wants to pick his own opponents).

    Wilder fought his mandatory in May.

    I think Wilder should fight Whyte. I also think Wilder should fight Ortiz again. I also think Wilder should fight Tyson Fury again. I also think Wilder should fight Joshua and Andy Ruiz.

    If an org says fight this guy and you become our mandatory, and you turn them down, they aren't going to do you any favors.
     
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  3. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sounds like Dillion Whyte is bitter that he declined 6 mil he was offered to fight AJ, because Joshua is very beatable now.
     
  4. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Was he not given the opportunity to fight an eliminator and get the mandatory spot that Brazeale got?
     
  5. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he has been mandatory for over 600 days
     
  6. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Think Brazeale was no 3 or 4 when he got his shot at Wilder. If Whyte was already mandatory why should he have another fight to be mandatory? And no way was Brazeale gonna accept that fight if he was getting Wilder anyway
     
  7. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    Hopefully Rivas beats him and this tedious soap opera comes to an end.
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder knocked out his mandatory 60 days ago.

    Dillian Whyte has never been the WBC mandatory contender.
     
  10. Crixus139

    Crixus139 Member Full Member

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    It is a joke but also must certainly is not. Whyte is making a truck load of money and fair play. Highest paid non world title holder , ever?

    His best case is actually may next year. Let wilder fury right , take an easier fight yourself in December and then go for it. Loads and loads of money to be made this way and still with the all important title shot. Whyte doing well if you ask me and fair play to him. Must win this weekend tho he doesn't have an "extra life" card like his buddy AJ does. And it's a proper fight too looking fwd to it.
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    I'm not convinced Wilder will fight Fury at all, never mind Whyte.
    I will not be at all surprised if Wilder and Ruiz arrange a unfication match (providing Ruiz beats Joshua) ...
     
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  12. Dubblechin

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    Boxing organizations routinely ask their top two available contenders (preferably #1 and #2) to fight an eliminator to determine the next mandatory. It's supposed to provide a more worthy challenger.

    Since Whyte got rated #1, he's refused to participate (see Whyte-Ortiz last year) except for the case two months ago when the WBC ordered a Whyte-Fury final eliminator and Fury (WBC #2) refused to participate.

    That's why Hearn has asked the WBC to make Whyte-Rivas the eliminator, even though Whyte is rated #1 by the WBC and Rivas is rated #10. (And should Rivas win, people will complain about Wilder fighting Rivas, no doubt.)

    Interestingly, Joshua is currently rated #3, Ortiz #4. Kownacki #5. Parker #6. Since Hearn promotes Whyte, Joshua and Parker, three of the top six WBC contenders, seems like those would be easy fights to make to determine a WBC mandatory.

    But Hearn wants #3 Joshua to fight Ruiz again. And Whyte apparently doesn't want to fight #6 Parker again (even though in the article he says we should all be fighting two or three times), and Hearn and Whyte chose Rivas.

    So, who knows what's going to happen with Whyte-Rivas in terms of being a final eliminator.

    For all the complaining about who Wilder's mandatories are, it doesn't seem like many fighters themselves or their promoters are too willing to fight who they are asked to fight to become a mandatory.

    Like I said, if you don't fight who the orgs tell you to fight to become a mandatory, then there's a very likely chance you never will be the mandatory.
     
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  13. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Its strange, everything in the world is a joke as far as Dillian Whyte see's it but at the same time hes never laughing, hes always angry. But to be fair the WBC is a joke.
     
  14. Dubblechin

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    The good thing about the sanctioning bodies - and there aren't a lot that's good about them - is you really don't need a powerful promoter or manager to get a title shot.

    Pretty much all of the sanctioning bodies have set it up so anyone anywhere in the world can fight for one of their regional titles, which will get you a world ranking. Regarding the WBC, if you win a regional title and one of their Silver belts, you get a very high ranking. And then they can call you for an eliminator for a world title fight.

    That's why guys you never heard of up and down the ratings in a lot of the orgs often get high ratings, and sometimes those guys end up performing better and scoring upsets and winning belts and outperforming the guys with powerful promoters who the TV networks want champs to fight.

    It's how guys like Walter Kautondokwa end up fighting for a vacant WBO middleweight title. It's how guys like Manuel Charr end up with a WBA heavyweight belt.

    Champions routinely fight other boxers who have high-powered promoters, or fight guys who share the same promoter they do. That's always happened. And those guys will always have an advantage.

    But there is an avenue for guys who don't have powerful backing to get in position and fight for a title. And I don't understand why more fighters don't take advantage of it.

    I don't know how hard it would be for boxers to just pick a sanctioning body and say I'm going to follow the path they laid out to get a title shot and fight for one of their regional belts and (in the case of the WBC) the silver betl and then engage in an eliminator against the guy the WBC tell me to fight.

    Dillian Whyte did a number of these things. He won a WBC International belt against Dave Allen which gave him a world ranking. He won a Silver belt against Helenius, and it gave him a top WBC ranking. But, after that, either Hearn or Whyte decided that's enough. And then they started complaining to the media and the press and insulting the sanctioning body. And now they've been stuck in place.

    They sort of derailed themselves. Now they're back asking for the WBC to sanction Whyte-Rivas as an eliminator after they spent the past year and a half bashing the WBC. They're morons. They started off fine, and then they derailed themselves.

    As a fighter, just pick a lane (an org) and stick to it. If you're good, you'll get there.
     
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  15. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wbc just said the winner of the rivas and whyte fight will fight wilder, some people might be right that if whyte wins theyll give wilder the franchise belt so he wont have to be forced to face whyte. ill respect the wbc a little bit if they actually force wilder to fight whyte knowing that he could get left hooked in brooklyn and the wbc belt goes to the uk.