Dimtrenko vs Ustinov vs Helenius

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  1. larsker

    larsker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    who comes out on top??
     
  2. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Helenius easily.

    I like Dimi, and he is improving with his use of the jab, but Helenius covers his two strengths- size and power, while adding a solid chin (based on the Brewster fight). Helenius has always worked behind the jab, and in about two years as pro, has already bested better competetion. Dimi is now playing catch-up.

    As for Ustinov, he is another Valuev- big, awkward, and a great chin. Perhaps he even has a bit more clubbing power. But he is not a pure puncher, does not have great skills, and unlike Valuev, does not come in shape. Ustinov is a guy who can similarly get wins just by being awkward and durable, but he will loose to any class fighter he faces.
     
  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    really, really difficult poll for me. I think the're all pretty close, but I guess it will be Helenius.
     
  4. larsker

    larsker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ustinov


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    Helenius


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    Dimtrenko
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    i dont know anything about helenius. i have seen ustinov tho, he reminds me of valuev. he is the best of the 3 from what i know.

    unless helenius is just unknown but really a top prospect.
     
  6. ile12345

    ile12345 Member Full Member

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    Helenius. Helenius-Dimitrenko would be awesome match up. Robert tko 5-7.
     
  7. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Helenius would beat both of them
     
  8. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Helenius, easily. Not sure he would beat them right this minute, but in a year he'll easily be the best. Ustinov's just big. Dimitrenko's just tall. Helenius is like mecha-Pavlik.
     
  9. Consu

    Consu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BRAINS... This makes the difference for Helenius's favor. Helenius is very smart in the ring and he has that ''idea'' in his work. He looks like he is thinking every move that he make. Jab, jab, jab and looking place for right hand which is very powerful and it makes damage every time it gets through.. Helenius's right hand is one of the hardest in the division. I would say only W.Klitschko hits harder than Helenius.

    Ustinov is too raw.. Poor technic and bad footwork.. He can mix some nice combos and he got some nice power in his hands but... Nothing special.. And also he's not the youngest guy in this sport so I think his ability to learn new tricks is not in the same level with those HW youngsters..

    Dimitrenko is big and massive but Chambers fight showed us that he got lot to learn. He is still young so I would give him chance to be better fighter in future. But I think we cannot compare him with Robert Helenius. Robert is much more professional than Dimi. And I'm not sure about Dimi's ability to take a punch.. Really, it's not good thing if you get knocked down twice against Chambers who is not big puncher as we all know. And he also showed lack of heart in this fight when he went down from bodypunch and claimed it was punch to the back..

    So answer to your question:

    Robert Helenius :bbb

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  10. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I´d still go for Dimitrenko by quite some margin though he has no heart.
    in case he ends up fighting Wlad in december he´ll get fundamentally destroyed of course.
    Helenius is a fragile hypejob who barely beat Olokun and cant touch Dimitrenkos skills. Chambers would easily toy him even worse than he did to Dimitrenko.
    Ustinov is a bum. a tough bum maybe but he has no business anywhere near the top i bet he´ll lose to some clubfighter anytime soon.
     
  11. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And if he'll develop the double mecha-jab, he'll be a monster!

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  12. Sakura

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    Helenius wins oloukun one hand. His right hand was broken knuckle in the middle of the match.

    Helenius knocks out both Dimitrenko and Ustinov in a few rounds.
     
  13. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    He re-broke his hand in the Olukun fight.

    Healthy Helenius is a beast.