Haye's a really good fighter though despite having a suspect jaw(which I think it's a bit better without the weight draining to make cruiser), he's good for boxing and he hits extremely hard, is fast and skilled. Enzo Macaroni is a joke, he's not even comparable to Haye's ability.
My hero? Do you realise how much I am at odds with Blocky? Tyson blows out both Klit's easily and blows out Lewis, there is no doubt about that, all of them can't handle that type of relentless assault while backing up, that's why they have little to no chance.
Oh, I agree with that - I actually think Haye might be able to have a Lewis-like career, IF he's able to keep that chin protected. I don't share your optimism about his chances at HW, however.
If the internet was around in the 60's and 50's and Sackman was around back then, he would say Ali had a glass chin for being knocked down by Cooper and that Marciano had a class chin for getting knocked down by two light heavyweights. Sackman despite popular belief really has no knowledge of boxing at all, he just puts ideas on who he thinks has a glass jaws or not. Holyfield got knocked out by a blown up middleweigth, I guess he has a glass jaw too?
Holyfield was stopped by the corner throwing in the towel, not KOed.:rofl Let's talk about boxing knowledge...
He's going to KO Mormeck and Bell if he sticks around at Cruiser. I'd definitley pick Haye over Brock and Rahman, as well as guys like Arreola and Eddie Chambers, I'd take him over Maskaev. He can have SOME success in a really explosive, entertaining career,
I've been following the sport for 30 years, and have studied the history of the sport extensively - which is one reason why I am good at predicting the outcomes of fights. Critics like yourself can say what you want, but my record speaks for itself. And punch resistence IS an important variable in predicting the outcomes of fights, and in judging the historical legacy of fighters. Disagree if you will, but most knowlegable observers recognize this.:yep
yeah sorry dont wanna hi-jack the ESB-ding-circle-jerk but Haye is the one to watch at cruiserweight. Ding has bang but I reckon Haye is the hardest puncher at cruiserweight. Ding might be top5, maybe even 2nd, but Haye wins. Infact I think he's a harder hitter than all but the very biggest guys at Heavyweight ie Klitschko's, Peter, Brewster. I'd put Tua, Briggs, Rahman on that list but they're so old now I dont think they've got the same speed as Haye. A so-called big puncher like Mac couldn't put Wayne Braithwaite away, whereas I dont think Braithwaite would go 6 rounds with Haye. I offer Darrell no disrespect. Infact I think the way he's got back into title contention after losing 4 in a row is superb achievement. I think that Ding - Haye is perhaps one of the best fights in boxing, better than anything you'll see at heavyweight bar Vitali vs Wlad Klitschko and I'd love to see it. It'd be WAR. But Haye is much much too big for ding, just like Macca would be. Haye is 6ft3 walks around weighing 235lbs, he's in shape at 220lbs, the guy has to lose more weight than any other boxer going to stay in his division. I think that Haye would stop Ding. I know Haye's got a poor chin, but hello so did Felix Cora Jnr, doesn't mean Ding's automatically knock you out.
Mac's arms are too long, Ding is short and stocky I dont think he could get inside on mac and hurt him. Mac showed he has a great jab against Braithwaite, and I think Ding would be stuck on the end of that all night. I dont think Macca would want to engage with Ding at all, he'll be quite negative and unwilliage to really trade, coz of ding's undisputed power and chin. I dont think Mac takes Ding out though, if he couldn't finish Braithwait then he's not gonna be the one to KO Ding. I also think Ding has a much better chance of winning by stoppage than Mac because he's a better finisher, it only takes one punch. If he gets inside even briefly it could be lights out. On that basis I can see it being a wide UD for Enzo Mac, but with the constant possibilty of a Ding KO throughout to spice it up. It'd be a tougher fight for him than braithwaite, who looked a bit knackered to me, although I don't wanna take too much away from Enzo I think Braithwaite has seen his best days. Ding makes a fight of it no doubt and has enough power to take out Enzo, but he's unlikely to win. Infact, I think that Ding probably has a better chance against Haye, coz Haye has a poor chin, and because Haye will want to brawl with Ding whereas Enzo will box conservatively. There's no way it goes 12 rounds, and Haye's chin and willingness to brawl could leave him on his arse. And I dont wanna hear a load of Ding nuthuggers come along and tell me story Ding's titanium chin, I know he has a great beard, but Haye could blast him out. Thats what makes it such a good fight in prospect, and possibly closer than Enzo - Ding. Haye - Ding is a much more attractive fight than Enzo - Ding if you ask me, that'd might end up with Qawi - Holyfield, Jirov - Toney and Mormeck - Bell in non-existant "the best fights ever at cruiserweight" list should it ever happen.
Forget his glass jaw - everyone called him for having a glass heart well before this. Absolutley nothing special about "predicting" a fighter going down who had demonstrated time and time again lack of confidence in himself.
No way Enzo lasts 12 rounds with Haye! Haye not a technical fighter? Put the crack pipe down for a minute and listen There's no cruiserweight about who's gonna last 12 with Haye, they either win by KO or lose by KO. The only people who are gonna last 12 with this guy are proven-chinned tough-guy Heavyweights; Tua, Brewster, McCall, people who can take heavyweight punches and stay upright, coz thats what Haye delivers. Its an close match up, but Haye's power is too much for Enzo. Enzo wont be able to bully Haye around because Haye is bigger, stronger and harder hitting than Enzo. Haye's jab will not fall short like Braithwaite's did all night long, and although Enzo has a good jab, Haye has an absolutely monstrous jab. Haye beats Enzo to the punch, and bosses him in every exchange, and has the power speed and skill to take macca out in brutal fashion. Mac doesn't hit has hard as Haye or Ding, and I dont rate his chin that highly either.
Enzo won't last more than a few rounds with Ding either. Both Haye and Wilson knock him out cold within 5 rounds! :nod
Both, actuallyl. I am a long-time (30 year) follower of boxing, and a practiced Chin-checker! I love boxing and I love to smoke out glass jaws. You might say it's my hobby.......