Dirrell, Froch, and The Great Train Robbery

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  1. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    landed the heavier blows? you've got to be kidding me. He never connected cleanly, whereas Dirrell had Froch in serious trouble in the 10th.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course he did.

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  3. Beatle

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    Dirrell ran all night and took a knee every time Froch was about to land a good punch.

    A thing I really don't like is when a fighter has loads of natural talent but doesn't use it. Floyd and Andre Dirrell are prime examples of this.

    Also I don't like Dirrell's acting job to avoid the championship rounds of the Abraham fight. You can tell he wasn't knocked out. He puts a glove to his face, makes a smirk, and then decides to fake a KO:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOQOBj4gV0o
     
  4. Stallion

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    So you scored the fight for Froch? And it's not about who put the better effort, deserved it based on that effort, or behaved prior and during the fight. Just strictly based on scoring, did you have Froch winning 6 or more rounds?

    Not that I'm necessarily the biggest fan of Dirrell's behavior (he's not as bad as some people portray him to be either), but that doesn't affect the scoring of the fight, eight? I couldn't put my word on the line and honestly say that certain boxer didn't win a fight if I felt that way, no matter how much I disliked that boxer or not.

    I remember reviewing the fight in a detail like a year ago, and giving every round I thought was close to Carl Froch, I had Froch winning no more than 4 rounds.

    Like I previously said, the judges' scores often change the perception, and give the courage to the biased people to claim something that didn't really happen.

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  5. tdf1974

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  6. DSG496

    DSG496 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :deal

    I'd be interested too hear peoples reactions if a british fighter went to USA, lands one punch then runs for the rest of the round, and decides to fall over as soon as any pressure is applied and wins a 12 round UD.
     
  7. Imperial1

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    If you score d that fight for Froch u dont know how to score a fight.
     
  8. Hitmanstyle

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    Good luck to Dirrell in his up coming fight. I had him winning on my card but on the official cards its pretty clear he lost the fight flopping around like a girl, whining and sprinting away from the action. I did score the fight for him but I can totally see how his shenanigans and cowardice turned the judges off. Frankly it turned me off too. Glad he didn't win....but in reality I like everyone else knew what was up that night...wasn't the first time....won't be the last.

    I'm totally okay with people saying that Andre won that fight. I agree. But anyone who says Ms Dirrelly got robbed has to admit that the manly innards within were somewhat discussed by his performance.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hi mate,

    Yes, as of late, Carl has got my back up.

    The reason I made this thread, is because Imperial had quoted Carl on one of his own threads, where he said that DeGale was fighting one of his former victims. So I pointed out that Andre Dirrell was a victim of a robbery against him. And because a few people disagreed with me, I rewatched the fight again last night. But despite me not liking Carl's comments, I can still be objective. Also, Carl wasn't at fault for the Dirrell fight, he just went out and did his job. Apart from his comments, it's the judges that I'm criticising more than anyone.


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  10. DirtyDan

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    All I'm reading in this thread for the people picking Froch is that they didn't like Dirrell's behavior.

    So what? That still doesn't change the fact that Dirrell got robbed and almost knock out Froch.

    Froch did absolutely nothing in that fight to warrant a victory.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's no good being the aggressor, if you're missing and getting countered. You can't give a guy rounds just based on effort. Also, it's disrespectful to label Andre a runner. He was jumping in and out of range, scoring good shots.
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Points deducted?

    Carl hip tossed him and rabbit punched him plenty of times through frustration.

    A heart of a yellow bellied Pygmie?

    You don't think he won the fight?

    Well tell me how in the hell Carl won it.

    He was basically rewarded, because he took shots and still walked forward.

    It was a joke.
     
  13. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yeah! even though Dirrell landed all the clean blows, he was .. a big jerk! Sure he had the clean, effective work, but his behavior was so ungentlemanly. When I score a fight, I like to score behavior first and foremost. If a guy runs me the wrong way, even if he's outclassing the other chap, I dock him points. I call then bad behavior deductions. When I scored Dirrell versus Froch I scored it for Froch, but that's because I took 6 points way from Dirrell for bad behavior!
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  15. the factor

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    This was a definitely a robbery. Dirrell won 9 rnds. This is how it happened. British
    fans screamed and jumped up out of their seats at every punch Froch threw whether it landed or not. The italian judge and Van der Wiele [who is normally a decent judge] did not have the baulls to go against the home town fighter. These guys are professional judges and know how to score a fight. They just didn't have the intestinal fortitude to put down an honest score in the hugely bias atmosphere of Frochs home town and should have been suspended by the WBC. By the way Aquamarine and a few others here [even some who thought Dirrell won] the 1st criteria for scoring is effective punches landing in the scoring area with the knuckle part of the glove. If they are equal you then look at power. If it's still equal you go to the aggressor then ring generalship and defense. You don't go against a guy just because you don't like his style and you can only deduct points when a ref orders it.