So after all the big pre fight talk from Andre 'The Sprinter' Dirrell that he was going to this to Froch and that to Froch, come fight time, and the biggest opportunity of his career, he choses to run around the ring in a manner I've never seen in 35 years of watching boxing. This wasn't making an opponent miss with clever footwork and then making them pay, this was literally running away from having a fight, and call me old fashioned but boxing is meant to be about having a fight:huh If Dirrell was a non American, I can guarantee you it would be MANY years before US tv ever touched him again, if ever.(See Junior Witter) I'm in no way suggesting that Dirrell should have stood and traded with Froch as that would have been suicide. But he clearly has outstanding skills and if he had been considerably more bold he could have easily beaten Froch with those skills. Instead he bottled it and turned a massive occasion into a game of schoolyard 'tag' with gloves on.
i remember HBO actually boycotted him after the Curtis Stevens fight. i feel sorry for the promoter of Dirrell. it'll be hard to sell his boring, running, hugging, survival tactics fights, esp at the higher level. i think cus he has a weak chin thats why he's scared shitless to get touched.
WRONG It was Froch who led the trash talk with his "I'll render him unconcious" remarks. But on the night, he could barely land a punch on his opponent, whilst being on the recieving end of a few cracking shots himself. and no, boxing is not just about fighting. It's an art. Being able hit and not get hit. Being able to utilize the ring and launch and evade attacks. In your opinion I guess guys like Mayweather are total trash too? Just because Froch likes to stand and trade, it doesn't mean the opponent has to comply. He failed to make Dirrell fight his fight, and on the night it became the other way round. Dirrell with his superior speed, combinations, accuracy and movement, had Froch hitting air all night.
Dirrell has amazing physical tools. I dont know why he adopted those tactics. If he restricted himself to running (and cut out the hugging and diving) I imagine he would could have taken the decision the other night.
No. Mayweather is arguably the best boxer ever. He's defensive, but makes opponents miss, stays in range and then counters hard and fast. He doesn't sprint around the ring all night then hold on for dear life if caught up with or fall to the floor. There a massive difference in Mayweather's style and Dirrells. I didn't know that HBO boycotted Dirrell after an earlier performance, but it doesn't surprise me. Maybe Dirrell has no confidence in his chin, but neither does Amir Khan, and yet he still has a proper fight and doesn't run all night. He now uses a high guard and lateral movement to make opponents miss then makes them pay. It's a shame for Dirrell because he clearly has outstanding ability, but this is meant to be a FIGHT, not a track meet. As for the scoring, I can see arguments for either fighter getting the decision, and Dirrell could have easily have been given the nod as there were so many close rounds with very little happening. I had Froch 3 points up, but wouldn't have argued had Dirrell won by 3 points. It was that kind of fight,VERY difficult to score.I'm sure that Dirrell's virtual refusal to fight counted against him, and if this was the case then he only has himself to blame, because he could have beaten Froch. Dirrell is the type of fighter that has the best chance of beating Froch
it's funny that you say trading with Froch would have been suicide, I thought the same thing prior to the fight, but in the instances when they did trade, Dirrell got the better of Froch every time. It was obvious Dirrell won that fight I don't see how anyone watching who wasn't a biased Froch fan could say otherwise.
Dirrell did a lot better than I thought he would so good on him for that. He committed himself a little more in the later rounds and looked good doing it but for the first two thirds of that fight he just ran. I found myself really frustrated watching as Dirrell denied everyone a decent fight by just holding and cuddling, falling over on a couple of occasions as he tried to grab on. terrible stuff. Of course he shouldn't have stood and traded with Froch but at least show a bit of guts. Running away holding on every time Froch got in range is not the way to win a world title! Close fight but not enough effort from Dirrell. He has himself to blame for that loss.
I usually don't agree with ur narrow train of thought, but you make a good point. Sad thing is Froch still looked lost and clueless as to how to cut off the ring. Dirrel tagged him up and almost dropped him late in the fight. If the boy would have pushed a little harder he wouldn't have needed the crooked judges. I had it close but no way did froch win
Where Dirrell used his skills he DID get the better of Froch, but he did it FAR too infrequently. Most expert opinion had it very close, which I agree with. It certainly wasn't an 'obvious' win one way or the other
It takes two fighters to make a boring fight... Froch seems to get credit for wanting to fight Dirrell, but Froch also used dirty tricks. Dirrell engaged more in the last 3 rounds, and he also took a left hook to the chin, so the way I see it Dirrell had overrated Frochs power a little bit and got more aggressive because he knew he could take one of Froch's bombs. Dirrell fought a smart fight considering it was his debut on the big stage, but I think he held to much and that was the thing that discredited his perfomance the most.
yep, don't know what those two judges were counting...the rough tactics? if back of the head shots and the body slam counted then i could understand, or maybe the shots out of the breaks cause those were froch's best shots of the night
Tough fight to score. I had it 5 rounds even, 4 rounds AD, 3 rounds CF, but with the point off AD, that pretty much evens it up. Draw for me with champ retaining title. I don't mind that CF won because he has the more entertaining style, and in a 15 round fight or in the proper old-time fight to the finish, Froch would eventually stop AD. But not an impressive performance other than he dealt fairly well with a really fast survival minded slick guy with that amateur style that is tough to look good against. But arguments could be made either way for this one. I think the ref did an outstanding job. This the PROS, not the amateurs. If you want runnning, ducking, falling to the ground, and lots of grabbing, watch the Olympics. Holding is a foul and it was about time a ref took points off for doing it. If they did so more often, we'd have better fights. If you grab, then you deserve to get mauled and roughed. If you act cowardly and bend your head straight down, then you deserve to get hit in the back of the head. Putting your head straight down face first and falling down is an act of resign, saying you can't fight so you are just going to be an ostrich and put your head in the sand. Enough of this garbage. It hurts the sport. There are no time outs in boxing. If Froch throws at his head and he bends forward, then if he gets hit on the back of the head, it's his own fault. Stop whining and fight or show some legitimate defense. I also like that the referee didn't prematurely break them, allowing Froch to work on the inside and to fight his way out of the clinch and not allow Dirrell to get his rest. Not only do I not think this ref should not be censured, I think he should be applauded. If these guys don't like to fight like real pros, then stay amateur and win the fake medals for fake fighting they give out in the Olympics these days. I do not think Froch should have had points taken off as long as Dirrell was trying to take time outs by holding, falling in, smothering, and ducking and falling down. They are paid to fight, not to survive. If you can't take the heat, don't enter the kitchen. If one guy doesn't want to fight and the other does, and the others' illegal tactics are only done in response to the initial 'not wanting to fight' illegal tactics, then I say favor the one who is trying to fight and give the public its money's worth. For example, when Foreman fought Jimmy Young, I thought it was ridiculous to take points off Foreman when he pushed Jimmy Young away every time Young would grab. It was Young who should have had the points off. My position is consistent and favors those who are constantly trying to fight and use legit defense, not holding. I like defensive fighters who know how to move their heads and block, not just grab incessantly. If you want to grab, fine, but then expect to get mauled for doing it. And if you get points off, even better. The combination of the two will force guys to fight instead of grab, and allow the real fighter to win the fight, instead of allowing these clutchers to obtain these boring lackluster decisions and have everyone applaud them for beautiful boxing, which it is not. A referee can help make it a fight by allowing the inside guy to work and not constantly breaking, by allowing the inside guy to counteract the holding tactics by roughing (don't want to get roughed, don't hold), and by taking points off. If that happens on a consistent basis, then next stop - lots more entertaining fights.