Dirrell stinks the joint out

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by David UK, Oct 19, 2009.


  1. Boxfan1

    Boxfan1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dirrell needs to learn to punch and duck, not punch and run. When you punch and duck, you basically appear to be a boxing genius and impress everyone with your defensive skills and speed. When you punch and run, you look like a kid that stole something and is running for his life. It's all about perception. Should the punches landed still count? Of course, but in the eyes of many judges, the punch followed by the run equals no punch. That's why so many people are upset about his fight. Many people feel he won, but yet are disappointed in the fact that he flat out ran from Froch. No excuses, he just RAN. Had he just kept him in the middle of the ring and circled him, instead of running like Jessie Owens every time Froch approached him, he would have won that fight by a huge margin.
     
  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: Yeah your not bias ..Gives AD no warning than deducts a point but allows Froch to throw Rabbid pucnheS to the back of the head and no pt deduction ..Yeah Ok :huh
     
  3. kwyjibo

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    That pretty much sums up how I feel. All of the punching behind the head was the result of a Dirrell clinch. What's Froch supposed to do when the guy runs to the other side of the ring and the only time he gets close he holds? Dirrell should have stood and fought properly to win because he was actually very good at it - he has head movement, speed and very good counter-punching ability. There's no need to run away, fall on the floor and clinch.
     
  4. Bodysnatcher

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  5. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, he's not.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Umm all the pre-fight talking was done by Froch saying 'don't worry about my biased judges because I'm knocking you out' and 'I'd be as good as Hagler, Leonard and Hearns in the 80s and beat them all'. Then Froch could barley land a punch all night and basically got schooled looking worse than an amateur. I think its plainly obvious who didn't live up to their trash talk and it wasn't

    Now yes Dirrell was negative, but this defensive tactic made Froch miss nearly all his punches. Its not appealing but you need to give him defensive credit and credit for VASTLY OUTLANDING FROCH, which is what happened

    Dirrell did need to throw more but actually your wrong Mayweather and Hopkins can be every bit as negative in certain fights.
     
  7. David UK

    David UK Boxing Addict banned

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    The best post I've seen so far on the fight and I guess from the spelling you're an American as well.

    Have a look at this

    [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=fztqCbOUiTY&feature=player_embedded#[/url]
     
  8. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Most 'expert opinion' was biased by either the money fighter or the Nottingham crowd which made them think Froch was landing punches he wasnt

    By people like Buncey saying 'you have to take the belt from the champion' is basically saying, ok you may have won but you didn't dominate quite enough, which is bollox
     
  9. phierl

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    Froch wouldn't look half as stupid if he would just stop hitting after the break, after the bell, and using illegal punches. He didn't do himself a favor as he could have taken the higher ground. Dirrell was holding Froch too much, but Froch broke the rules just as much as Dirrell if not more... bad referee, bad decision.
     
  10. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's an easy thing to say those who thought Dirrell was negative don't like pure boxing, but pure boxers use their defence to create opportunities. The art of counter punching.

    I thought Dirrell knicked it at 7-5 at the time, but rewatching (which was painfully dull) I had it 6-5-1 and, with the perfectly reasonable point deduction, a draw. Yeah, you could have deducted a point from Froch, but why was he using illegal tactics? In response to the constant illegal holding.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    How about Froch hitting on the break, using bodyslams, rabbit punching (which is very illegal and very dangerous - much more than a hit to anywhere else on the head), loads of rabit punching in that vid. Froch should have lost a point at least aswell

    For the record Im a Brit and my sis lives 10 miniutes from the Nottingham stadiums
     
  12. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, it's saying you didn't put forth the amount of effort required to make yourself a clear victor. We can say scoring shouldn't be influenced by the crowd, but it IS. Dirrell admitted he knew that and fought like he was scared - that's stupid. You want people to know you're the better fighter, not better at spoiling.

    He appeared like he didn't want to fight and the judges responded to that negativity.
     
  13. Dirrell lost this fight himself

    he should've left no doubts

    by taking more chances

    and throwing punches more then he was holding
     
  14. PowerPuncher

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    Fights are scored based on punches landed. Dirrell vastly outlanded Froch, the aggressor needs to be effective in his aggression, Froch did nothing effective bad 1 or 2 rounds where he had a little success
     
  15. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Has anyone seen punch stats on this fight? I've tried to google them and have come up with nothing. Very strange that this information seemingly doesn't exist.