Dirrell vs Abraham: Experience Counts.

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I know a lot of people disagree with my view of the Froch-Dirrell fight where I felt Froch won. That's not how you fight for a title. You could tell after the fight that Dirrell didn't think he won either...but that's then, and this is now.

    We're talkin about Abraham-Dirrell.

    Well let's look at Abraham. Abraham is a guy with no style, no rhythmm, relatively slow hands, he's often off balance, and he has a tendancy to swing wide. BUT he is also, a granite chinned, strong willed, extremelly hard hitting, brick wall of a fighter.

    Dirrell on the other hand has excellent handspeed, great balance, technique, style, rhytmm, and throws short and precises punches. BUT he also backs up in a straight line, gets caught in a corner standing straight up with his chin exposed, basically runs for his life at times, and has questionable heart and fortitude.

    I think this fight is going to come down to experience. While Dirrell appeared to grow up a little in the Froch fight, especially towards the end of the fight when his confidence began to soar, he had the look of a scared fighter when he was in the corner, and he makes a lot of mistakes that he would not make with more experience.

    Abraham does leave his body exposed, and Dirrell has the style to take advantage of this, and I think he MAY punch hard enough to gain Abraham's respect, but due to some of the mistakes that he's going to make in the ring, combined with Abraham's relentless pressure, I think that Abraham will eventually get to him and knock him out.

    Dirrell has the potential to be great, but I think they're throwing him in with the wolves too soon.

    I say Abraham by late KO.
     
  2. The Joker

    The Joker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see Abe koing Dirrell as well.
     
  3. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I think a Dirrell with more experience and perhaps more heart and fortitude though could make Abraham look like a club fighter.

    CUE everyone to come in and tell me, I don't know boxing...bla bla bla.

    Look, running is running and boxing is boxing.

    Floyd boxes, B Hop boxes, Jersey Joe Walcott boxes, Pernell Whitaker boxes, and Dirrell can BOX, but he often runs.

    Running is the lack of discipline when you're in the corner, looking for an escape route rather than a counter....etc, etc, etc.

    These are things that are normally cured with experience.
     
  4. kmac619

    kmac619 Active Member Full Member

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    and punching to the back of the head is fighting not boxing. Be that as it may It's really a toss up fight will Dirrell learn from his mistakes from last fight(which I and the masses believe he won)and try to enforce his will a bit more.
     
  5. Hermit

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    Abraham constant pressure? Please. Dirrell was supposed to fold for Froch. Didn't happen that I know of. Unlike Taylor, he will be way behind on the scorecards and have to open up. This is good for Dirrell. Lesser fighters have gone 12 with AA.
     
  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you see their faces afterwards? :lol:
     
  7. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    I don't remember Simon fairing too poorly. In fairness, I don't look at much of what Abraham did at 160 for the past year as too much of an indicator. He certainly didn't shy away from Taylor during the fight that I remember. I do see Dirrell outboxing him by a wide margin if he can't land some 'equalizers' early on though. I hadn't seen much of Dirrell and didn't know what to expect. This fight will be more interesting than the Taylor one now.
     
  8. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    In my eyes, Dirrell did fold. Froch just didn't capitalize. He was too gun shy.

    Dirrell was running. That's why he was so tired in the corner, and that's why he was forced to consistantly hold on.

    With Abraham, it will be much harder for Dirrell to employ this strategy due to Abraham's stature, strength, and style.

    And how do you think Abraham wins? He wins by utilizing pressure.

    What, you think he outboxes his opponents?
     
  9. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Honestly, as far as skill goes, I don't see anything in Abraham. But he has out of control power, he's relentless, incredibly strong, and has an iron chin.

    That kind of fighter causes problem for anyone, but especially for a boxer that doesn't have enough experience, and showed it in his last fight against Froch.
     
  10. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We dont know Dirrell might shock us again and outbox AA like he did to Froch
     
  11. redmond22588

    redmond22588 Blood and Guts Full Member

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    Man i really want some USA wins but i cant see it happening, with the exception being CF.



    PS Im not being a hater
     
  12. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I wasn't shocked. That's not how you take a belt. You don't hold your way to the championship.

    He was holding because he was tired. He was tired because he was running. You could tell he was tired because of how he looked in the corner.

    But yeah, he CAN outbox Abraham. He's got all the tools. I just don't think he has the experience, and honestly, his heart his questionable.
     
  13. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Does anyone think Dirrell will win? I mean, ****... Judging by the outrage from the Froch fight, you would have to assume a whole lot of people would think that Dirrell will easily win this fight like he supposedly easily beat Froch.

    But the thing is people don't believe he will beat Abraham because if they look at the Froch fight objectively, they see a guy in Dirrell that has all the tools but lacks the experience to win against Abraham.

    Experience means a lot.
     
  14. TheUzi

    TheUzi MISSION INCOMPLETE Full Member

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    REAPER-You said in your first post you dont want to speak about Froch Dirrel,insted want to concentrate on Dirrel AA, then go on to mention Froch or the fight in your next 5 posts.

    Clearly your a deluded Froch fan
     
  15. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I'm a B Hop fan. That's about it.

    I mean ****, if I'm delusional, say what you gotta say about the fight. Not what you think about me. I mean, is this the gossip game?