Dirrell vs. Ward is headed for Detroit, Joe Louis Arena

Hermit · Aug 4, 2010

Landshark said: ↑

Sounds like it really is NOT going to Detroit from what I have been hearing.
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After the last fight there I thought it was a stupid decision. It needs to go where they can get a gate.

techks · Aug 4, 2010

bailey said: ↑

How can you say that when Abraham has no real SMW resume of note and his big MW win was against Miranda. Now lets be honest. Its his SMW resume were talking about here. So id say hes better than say Manfredo but not Reid
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Overall AA is better than the guys you listed. I mean when I thought about Dirrell facing Abraham I thought Andre would get slaughtered easily so now I just give him props for the win. Abraham matched up with those guys on Lacy's run, AA wins in my opinion. You can't discredit Dirrell didn't AA take out Taylor? You didn't even bring that fight up and that's part of his resume at SMW. Taylor even beat Lacy badily. Taylor>>>>>>guys you listed. I don't mean this to "attack" you or to offend you in no way do I intend to disrespect you but I'm just saying how I feel.

bailey · Aug 5, 2010

techks said: ↑

Overall AA is better than the guys you listed.
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Not at SMW hes not, and less proven

I mean when I thought about Dirrell facing Abraham I thought Andre would get slaughtered easily so now I just give him props for the win.
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Why did you rate Dirrell so high? Abraham had a limited SMW resume and is a small MW with his big win against gate keeper at most Miranda

Abraham matched up with those guys on Lacy's run, AA wins in my opinion.
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AA who just lost to Dirrell, when Reid had looked unlucky against Ottke arguably in the top 10 best SMWs

You can't discredit Dirrell didn't AA take out Taylor?
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Took out Taylor coming off a KO defeat

You didn't even bring that fight up and that's part of his resume at SMW.
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Yes I did. I said Taylor was coming off a KO loss

Taylor even beat Lacy badily.
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After Lacy was ruined, as I said Lacy was fed to the wolf too soon

Taylor>>>>>>guys you listed.
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How on earth do you get Taylor as a SMW was better than Reid. He wasnt

I don't mean this to "attack" you or to offend you in no way do I intend to disrespect you but I'm just saying how I feel.
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Your a gentleman Techks and havent attacked or offended. We are all entitled to opinions which vary with each person and all though I am in disagreement dosent mean its an arguement.
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Dirrell was beaten by Froch, and Dirrell hasnt anywhere near the SMW resume of Tyspko or Reid on Lacys, at SMW Abraham dosent either
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No10Point · Aug 5, 2010

First I am SO GLAD this will be in Detroit.

Second - we do not know the after effects from the knock down from Abraham.
I felt it was a bit of acting - AFTER the fact. Should have been a -2 plus 5 minutes to recvoer BUT alas.

Dirrel does have the skills but does he
have the mental ability. Being in his home town will help there PLUS have the reverse effect on Ward who will be fighting outside his for the first time for the super six.

IF Dirrel STOPS Ward...
Wow that WILL BE THE show stopper to the super six. Hell IF he stops Ward I will call on him to win the series. (His confidence will go through the roof and he will be in the "zone" in his next fight.

techks · Aug 5, 2010

bailey said: ↑

Not at SMW hes not, and less proven

Why did you rate Dirrell so high? Abraham had a limited SMW resume and is a small MW with his big win against gate keeper at most Miranda

AA who just lost to Dirrell, when Reid had looked unlucky against Ottke arguably in the top 10 best SMWs

Took out Taylor coming off a KO defeat

Yes I did. I said Taylor was coming off a KO loss

After Lacy was ruined, as I said Lacy was fed to the wolf too soon

How on earth do you get Taylor as a SMW was better than Reid. He wasnt

Your a gentleman Techks and havent attacked or offended. We are all entitled to opinions which vary with each person and all though I am in disagreement dosent mean its an arguement.
Back to my attack
Dirrell was beaten by Froch, and Dirrell hasnt anywhere near the SMW resume of Tyspko or Reid on Lacys, at SMW Abraham dosent either
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Thanks. Being on ESB it's usually hard to have an intellectual conversation without someone saying insults or behaving childish. You're entitled to your opinion as I am mine but I still feel the same way I did before. And it's not always "who beat who" that doesn't make someone better. The Dirrell-Froch fight was a robbery that should've gone to Dirrell in my opinion but some of it was his fault because he was too defensive-minded and didn't counter enough though he still made Froch look terrible. After this tournament, Dirrell will have a better resume than Lacy and probably already does. Dirrell to me is also a MUCH better fighter than Lacy and so was Taylor. Lacy was decent but just isn't as good as AA in my opinion regardless what their resumes say though AA will have a better resume than Lacy. I give Calzaghe credit because at the time, I thought Lacy would whoop him and Calz was an underdog and managed to whoop Jeff instead. Still Lacy isn't on par with any of the S6 fighters to me except maybe Green. Ward beating Green was an okay victory but how he won was better because like Calz did Lacy, Ward made sure Green wasn't going to win any round. Oh and you said why did I rate Dirrell highly, don't you mean AA. Due to the fact that AA's a puncher I thought he would take out Dirrell because I wasn't sure Dirrell could dig deep to pull off the win due to how nervous he fought against Froch. Also, Taylor would've killed any version of Lacy he was just much better than him though I don't take anything from Lacy.
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Hermit · Aug 5, 2010

No10Point said: ↑

First I am SO GLAD this will be in Detroit.

Second - we do not know the after effects from the knock down from Abraham.
I felt it was a bit of acting - AFTER the fact. Should have been a -2 plus 5 minutes to recvoer BUT alas.

Dirrel does have the skills but does he
have the mental ability. Being in his home town will help there PLUS have the reverse effect on Ward who will be fighting outside his for the first time for the super six.

IF Dirrel STOPS Ward...
Wow that WILL BE THE show stopper to the super six. Hell IF he stops Ward I will call on him to win the series. (His confidence will go through the roof and he will be in the "zone" in his next fight.
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The ring side doctors said he was concussed. The fight would not have gone on. Doesn't matter what you "felt".

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