Dirrell was robbed in UK - Kotelnik robbed in USA

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:
    I think he must be what they call a nuthugger or a biased fan maybe.
    Still hes been humiliated and run off the thread
     
  2. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    I've never suffered to watch the fight. But from what I here it was one of the most boring pugilistic exhibitions of the year. I remember the day after most were comparing it to the Dirrell vs Froch fight with the majority of Americans laughing at Brits for criticizing Dirrells performance and saying Haye was anything but impressive vs Valuev.

    :lol: He fought the worst heavyweight in history. He was supposed to win. Hell this was the guy that 60 year old demented Holyfield beat in most peoples eyes. You seem to be getting off too much on this fight. Until Haye has the guts to get his glass chin cracked by the Klitsckos, this fight means nothing.

    Btw, most posters on here called the fight boring and laugh at Haye for declaring himself an exciting heavyweight then running from a statue. Live with it.
     
  3. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Post them. Not gonna take your word for it. Running *****? How much boxing have you done fat boy? :lol:
    You dont know **** about boxing, and cant score a fight then. Thats the plain truth. Do I have to walk you through the fight like a baby and show you how to properly score a fight? Because I will. I've done it with this fight before.
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    For a fighter that never went 12 before, it was a good performance. Dirrell should have realized how limited Froch was, how he presented no threat to him as an elite level athlete he is, but given the fact that he did win 8-9 rounds, I'd say it was a good performance.

    Again if the fights in a nuetral venue, Dirrell wins wide. If its in America, Froch gets disqualified before the 7th illegal blows.

    Again im pretty sure I've owned you with my scorecard before, but we can go through it again if you want.


    Btw if you wanna go the rout the magazines gave it to Froch, they didnt I posted 3 before that had Dirrell the clear winner, but if you wanna go that route, the vast majority of mags and publications had the fight for Alexander. So please dont use that as your argument.
     
  5. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    :rofl BE WARNED. ROGER MAYWEATHER IS HERE
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    dirrel looked like a ***** vs froch. he did prove to be a class above him in rounds 10 and eleven, but by then he had left it too late. plus he got a point deducted in the tenth. dirrell is clearly more skilled, he just fought a shite game plan.

    kotelnik proved to be a long way ahead of alexander in terms of skill and he did enough to win in my book. saying that he lost the first 5 in my book also.

    neither was a robbery. both were close fights. **** happens.
     
  7. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Woah, woah, back up there Danny.

    So, Jack asked you for an example of a title fight where the winner fought worse than Dirrell against Froch. You named David Haye v Valuev and compared 'your opinion' of the two fights.

    And now you're saying you've never seen Haye v Valuev :rofl

    I know you've never actually had any credibility here Danny, but you're rapidly heading for negative credibility :lol:
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Dirrell hurt Froch in the 10. 9-9 round. Plays no factor in the rest of the round. Rounds 1-9 landed more punches and was more elusive.

    You score fights on Clean punches, and Defense. Effective Aggression would be the only thing you could give to Froch and you can logically give it to him given that he was missing so badly he almost fell out of the ring. :lol:

    Kotelnik v Alexander was close. Dirrell vs Froch was clear robbery. Both European judges gave Froch the 11th and 12. Rounds Dirrell clearly dominated. End of.
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Never said anything about seeing the fights. I said David Haye was reported to have landed like 20 punches by the posters on here after the fight. Please show where I said I seen the fight, and where exactly does it matter. I've seen the majority of the opinion of the fight, and why would I subject myself to such pain.

    Again keep reaching Cobbler. You might get me one day. :lol:
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That wasn't even your point. You flat out said Haye won with a poorer performance than Dirrell's. It's nothing to do with the quality of opposition.

    The key thing is though...you haven't even seen the ****ing fight!

    Haye vs. Valuev was excellent boxing, made even more impressive by Haye's broken hand. Despite that, he landed at an unheard of 68% and landed more shots than Valuev, despite throwing far less punches. He evaded well, landed well...all with crying, hugging and running any time his opponent pulled a mean face. To compare it to the Dirrell performance is a joke. To compare it, when you haven't even ****ing seen the Haye fight is just ridiculous.

    And I ask you again. Name me one title winning performance, without injuries, DQ or whatever, that was worse or similar to Dirrell's. You can give me one, right?
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    froch outlanded dirrel in that fight.

    and round twelve was a froch round, dirrel himself said post fight he felt he needed to win that round, but he felt froch did enough.
     
  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    How would you understand what a fight was like from reports of anonymous posters on an internet message board? How would you be able to compare it to other fights? How would you understand anything about it?

    You're commenting on fights that you haven't seen.

    That's all we need to know here.
     
  13. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's all that needs to be said to prove that it's a robbery.

    Anyone who thinks it wasn't a robbery care to address that point?

    It wasn't a close fight.
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is just ****ing surreal, I swear. I've seen some awful posts on ESB over the years, but this? What the ****?! I'm not kidding, I read that twice because I didn't grasp it. I don't know whether to laugh, cry or follow Pimp C's advice and "log off".

    ****ing hell.
     
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    froch wpn round 12.

    even giving dirrell round 11 on the euro cards froch still wins.