Dirtiest Boxer in the Modern Era?

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  1. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let's not forget that Mike Tyson bit chunks of ear off.
    I know he's Murica's favourite son, now a wise elder of their society, but I think he should be on the list.
    There's also a video of him demonstrating how to wrench and damage an opponent's elbow joint in the clinch, which basically exposes his whole mentality.
    Great man.
     
  2. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins was much dirtier than Ward. People don't like that Ward cleared out the UK and Russkie champs so they have to exaggerate his being dirty.

    Bernard not only did every *offensive* thing that a dirty fighter would do, he was not above faking injuries in order to get his opponent penalized or disqualified. In fairness, he wasn't always like that -- the second Echols fight was incredibly dirty by both guys -- but the Calzaghe incident was a disgrace.
     
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  3. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Mike takes the cake if you consider him the modern era. 80s/90s was a while ago now lol
     
  4. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Jamie Cox was a dirty fighter inside and out of the ring.
     
  5. Mike_b

    Mike_b Active Member Full Member

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    May he rest in peace, agapito Sanchez that ugly performance against Pacquiao, ended up ruling a draw. Headbutts, elbows, low blows, all that on one fight.
     
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  6. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ward hit Froch with elbows in a match he was clearly winning. Why? Because he could.

    Bernard in his prime was no dirtier than Ward. The older Hopkins became the worse he got.
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Ass isn't a banned word Full Member

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    Fury is very dirty making Wilder gas by headlocking him often and putting all his weight on him, he also hit then hold often stopping Wilder from countering.
     
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  8. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev "See you, Tyson." Full Member

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    If we include the 80s and the 90s, then Tyson. Nowadays it’s probably Fury.
     
  9. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that fight as ugly as it was, was a good learning experience for Pacquiao.
     
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  10. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Without a shadow of a doubt Andre Ward. Horrible boxer to watch, and although effective and very good, grossly overrated.
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Even if you're of the opinion that Ward, as outrageously filthy dirty as he undoubtedly was, isn't the dirtiest, he's the dirtiest just by virtue of the fact he

    Whined like a female dog when he was given a taste of his own medicine

    Refused to ever travel outside of his home country where he knew he would have his obligatory home refs (all from the US, a whopping 23 from Cali) to turn a convenient blind eye to his illegal tactics

    His whole gimmick was about him being a holier than thou devout Christian

    And he lied through his teeth about being dirty

    If you're going to be filthy dirty at least be man enough to own it, even if only somewhat.

    ''I'm not a dirty fighter. You can check any of my 20 fights I've never done that intentionally''

    Jim Grey: ''Are you a dirty fighter?''

    Andre Ward: ''Absolutely not!''


    ''I'm glad that I can win ugly sometimes (ROFL), because at the end of the day it's just about winning, right?

    ''I'm just saying, man, every cut I got is a headbutt or an elbow. Every single one.

    ''But that's why there's a third man in the ring (ROFL)''

    ''All these are either blatant headbutts or elbows, literally blatant. Not one of these was from a punch''

    "We expected this kind of fight with Bika," Ward said. "Every laceration I have was literally [from] a headbutt or an elbow. I clearly remember each one of them. That's what you get when you fight a guy like Sakio."

    ---Andre Ward after the Bika fight

    ''At the end of the day, boxing is already a tough enough business to not have to put up with illegal blows.

    ''I don't mind the occasional foul if it's an accident but the intentional stuff I just can't put up with it''

    --Andre Ward



    Here's ''the facts''

     
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  12. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Those Kessler ones were especially egregious - from bending below the waist and then leading with the head - with momentum and force no less, no one ever convincing me those weren't deliberate.
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    They were clearly intentional. He lead with his head all the time just like one of the members of his ''holy trinity'' of boxing idols B-Hop whose style he has ''borrowed'' a lot from. Just watch the way he's flying in with the elbows and forearms at the start of that vid for confirmation of how intentionally dirty he was.
     
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  14. fencik45

    fencik45 Active Member Full Member

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    That was Ali's bread and butter upon his return.
     
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  15. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    John Ruiz, and it's not particularly close. Because unlike most of the rules-violators identified here, who were world class fighters without the illegal tactics, and used this as a supplement to their game, glorified clubfighter Ruiz used them to make up for his entire lack of boxing ability.

    And without Don King to grease the wheels for his illegal and shameful shenanigans in the ring, Ruiz would have been best known for getting starched in 19 seconds by David Tua, and then faded into well-deserved obscurity.
     
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