Dirtiest fighters

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  1. Jersey Joe

    Jersey Joe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just saw this video on youtube:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FSsoR4ZMqc&NR=1[/ame]

    Check out Holyfield's awesome simultaneous nutsack and headbutt combo at 3:02.

    How about a 10 dirtiest fighters list?
     
  2. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mysterious Billy Smith
    Fritzie Zivic
    Chuck Wiggins
    Captain Bob Roper
    Kid Norfolk (has several DQ losses and from most accounts should have been the DQ'd in the second fight with Greb)
    Sandy Saddler

    I'll think of more later.

    Rocky Marciano, Harry Greb, Tom Sharkey and Roberto Duran all crossed the Queensbury line at times, but I've always considered them to be more rough than outright "dirty". The guys who made my list tended to have a good number of DQs to go along with their dirty reps. Except for Zivic and Saddler, both of whom I feel were just too clever to get caught;)

    Mustafa Hamsho might make a few lists. Same with Fireman Jim Flynn
     
  3. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fritzie Zivic said he is the 2nd dirtiest fighter of all time, after Harry Greb.
     
  4. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Greb
    Zivic
    Norfolk
    LaMotta
    Holyfield
    Hopkins
    Tyson
    Saddler
    Golota
    Papke
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Armstrong wasn´t mentioned yet, he used his forearms quite well and constantly. But I guess this is due to his style, Greb, Marciano and other swarmers had simmilar issues.
     
  6. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My favorites during the time I followed boxing were Sammy Serrano and Eusebio Pedroza. Both had highly proficient elbows. Cheating is about more than low blows, as Chuck Wepner demonstrated. Heels, lace rakes, kicks and rabbit punches are also essential weapons in the arsenal.

    This is one of the most prized possessions in my boxing library. (No, it's not for sale. Buy your own damned copy! It's bad enough I'm even sharing this intel.):

    [ame]http://www.amazon.com/Boxings-Tricks-Outlaw-Killer-Punches/dp/1559501472[/ame]

    Larry Holmes had a highly educated thumb, as LeDoux and Frank found out. Antufermo used his head as a weapon, then complained when repeatedly coming out on the bad end of skull clashes. (Don Curry reproached himself for the fact his head was even available to be butted, and strove to take corrective action to protect it better, a commendable attitude.)

    Fritzie Zivic never lost on a disqualification although deductions for fouls were known to cost him at least a couple of wins. Galento actually admitted training with elbow pads. There are photographs of Marciano hitting with the elbow on his follow through.
     
  7. AndrewFFC

    AndrewFFC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Barrera, he didnt even make an effort to disguise it either.
     
  8. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    I've heard Chavez was pretty dirty, but their are people who say he wasnt always attempting to hit people low, it was just that people used to pull their trunks up high so he he would be less inclined to do some of his body snatching.
     
  9. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Casamayor deserves a mention.
     
  10. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Sakio Bika is a dirty sakio ****
     
  11. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pedroza
    Pedroza
    Pedroza (as much as I love the guy, he made dirty tactics an art form)
    Holyfield
    Tyson (see Tyson - Biggs)
    Michael Spinks had some educated elbows
     
  12. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :yep
     
  13. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    oh and Golotta got into a lotta trouble for low blows
     
  14. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In recent times,Ricky Hatton anyone?Besides the headbutts,shoulder blows and low blows,he utilized the ole hold and hit so perfectly,his fans were upset when he wasn't allowed to do it.
     
  15. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Barrera was a viscious thug