Discuss fighters Jones Jr ducked in his prime

Clueless! He's just throwing names around. He mentions Eubank every time, when it's common knowledge that he stated he wasn't interested in big name fights. In think it's even in his autobiography.

Let him try and come back with proof that Roy ducked all those guys. :good

 

Jackson and Nunn were both world champions and about 30 something fights deep into their career when Jones was getting robbed in Seoul.

They were hardly of the same era. If Jones had fought and beat them,he would have gotten the same **** he did for fighting an old McCallum

 

These clowns don't/won't allow for circumstances.

This forum is fantastic and ridiculous in equal measure.

Look what's happened in the last few weeks.

A quick example.

Froch has gained tons of credit for losing to Ward, but Ward hasn't got ANY CREDIT for outclassing him.

 

No matter what Roy did, it would never be enough for some people..

Most of these clowns are just naming fighters off the top of their head, without even thinking how viable the fights even were at the time, or how meaningful they would have even been..

Just name of any fighter around Roy's weight he didn't fight and call it a duck.. That seems to be it.

 

Bunch of Brits pretending WBO titles were considered "real titles" in the nineties and that anyone gave a ****. Ring didn't even list WBO as a title under the names of the guys who held them. It was considered on the level of WBU or some ****.

Newsflash: Eubank is only considered a former "champion" in the UK pretty much. He spent his whole career floating around the middle of the Ring rankings with no title under his name because WBO wasn't ****.

Michalczewski? LOL nobody has said his name in 10 years that wasn't trying to badmouth Roy. Outside of trolls looking for guys Roy "should have fought" no one remembers that he ever existed.

 

That's exactly what's happening.

Let's see them produce evidence that Roy ducked all of these guys.

 

Some people have gone as far to say Joe Calzaghe, and Lennox Lewis.

Neither case can possibly be made, by neither haters or delusional worshipers.

 

Here's a question for you. Why should Eubank - the richest paid fighter in European Boxing at the time - go out of his way to chase difficult fights with guys in the states when he could just as easilly make big money staying in the UK fighting lesser opponents? What sense would that make for a money-fighter like Eubank?

Benn would not have turned away a shot at Jones if it had been arranged but he wasn't looking for a fight with him either. He was happy to leave Jones alone because Jones was a bad style match-up for him. When the McClellan incident tooks Benn's soul along with it the whole thing was pointless anyway.

Collins, as has been documented, chased Jones for years looking for a fight but he didn't have the pull with the US Promoters to force one and was reliant on Jones, and the only time Jones's camp showed any interest in a potential fight with Collins was after Collins had been retired 2 years and even then they would only be interested in a fight if Collins beat Calzaghe.

Eubank had no incentive to go to the States to fight Jones because his primary goal was to make the most money out of the sport that he could and get out with his health intact. Conclusion - Eubank was to blame for the fight not happening.

Benn wasn't chasing the fight with Jones but would have fought him if it had been arranged before he lost his drive and killer instinct after fighting McClellan. Conclusion - poltics and promoters were to blame for the fight not happening

Collins chased Jones but there was no interest from anyone in the states for a fight between them, and the only time any interest emerged was when he was unable to attempt to get it. Conclusion - Jones and his camp are responsible for the fight not happening, but due to lack of public interest in the fight in the States it's justifiable from their perspective.

 

So many great fights to be made back then. Such a shame they never happened.

 

Great post mate!

The only thing to add is, Lou DiBella at HBO didn't want to make the Collins fight. But Roy did mess him around a bit.


Regards, Loudon.

 

:roflfail

 

He had 6 fights at 168 after beating Toney. Of those fights he beat an unranked Thornton, a suspected juiced lightweight in Pazienza, a past it Byrd, a never was in Sosa, a young non-threat in Lucas and a veteran of 16 fights in Brannon.


So the deserving fighters Jones didn't fight is these guys:

Nunn
Benn
Eubank
Collins
Barkley
Cordoba
Littles
Van Horn
Liles
Nardiello
Close
Rocchigianni
Nicotra

Bottom line is that Roy didn't fight the above mentioned guys. I don't know who's to blame for those fights not happening, but Roy's resumé suffers because of it.

I do know that Roy preferred Pazienza instead of Nunn so that might be the pattern: Fight as easy an opponent as possible for the most money. **** legacy.

So Eubank didn't want Jones? I don't know the specifics, but we know for a fact that Jones didn't lure him into the ring.

Those names where all top ranked contenders by Ring Magazine at the time Jones was in the division and where all qualified which is more than you can say of the fighters Jones DID fight at 168 which was downright horrible (see above).

 

To be fair the list is only at SMW. Jones did a lot more and had several good to great wins outside of that division, but this thread was about who Jones didn't fight.

 

We have already discussed this at lenght.

You claim that the RJJ-DM fight didn't happen because DM didn't want to.

I say both camps are to blame.

You will not move an inch on your stance regardless of sources provided, so let's just let it go.