Loudon, would you agree with KOartist that Wlad fought a technical masterpiece against Wach?. Dont want to drag you into the argument, but to me, thats a crazy statment.
I wouldn't say he ever fought a masterclass in boxing. You're a big fan of Toney, Toney's fight against against Barkley was a masterclass in boxing. There has to be too great fighters in the ring to get that accolade imo.
Still, Jones never crossed over for some reason. He had his rap career but that was hit and miss, he had great skills and an exciting style, but he never seemed to generate the popularity and publicity like Mayweather, Tyson, Pacquiao or ODLH. He wasn't a superstar. Though it's a good point he never had an ODLH or a Mike Tyson to make a name off You said Ward-Dawson was a masterpiece - you consider that version of Dawson who killed himself to make 168 a great fighter? Also Iran Barkley was NOT a great fighter! An example of a masterclass between great fighters would be Thomas Hearns-Wilfred Benitez
I love watching that fight. A classic clash of styles. Toney looked amazing that night. He was 23/24 and in fantastic shape. I wish he'd have been more dedicated. I think Roy's fight with Toney was a masterclass, but you've got the whole weight issue.
But Wach is? I said Wards performance was a technical masterpiece. It was a fighter appliying all of his trade to the best of his ability. A showcase of pure boxing skill. Wlad jabbed Wach for 12 rounds and when he felt safe he threw a right hand. Do into the classic and declare that fight a boxing masterclass. You'd be laughed off the forum.
You stated Ward Dawson was a masterclass, then you said a masterclass has to be between two great fighters. Dawson isn't a great fighter, and at 168 Dawson is terrible! Completely drained! Make your mind up! And Wlad threw plenty of right hands against Wach!!
Not many people make an issue about the weight. I was never even aware of it till the haters called it. Its still reguarded as a classic fight. Hop/Pavlik is another fight that was an example of pure boxing materclass. He has to be trolling me with Wlad/Wach!
The post is there. Go back and look at it. Dawson obliterate's Wach in terms of skill and accomplishments. Wlad has never and will never put on a masterclass in boxing.
Dawson is nothing at 168 - hence why Miranda KO'd him in sparring a week before he fought Ward! You have an agenda against Wlad and it's clouding your judgement
Dino, Zod's got some great links from the book, Dark Trade. There's loads of really interesting info in it regarding Roy's fight with James. If you're interested, I'll try and get you the links.
Wach is nothing fullstop. You're changing the agrument after you got floored. Wlad v Wach a masterpiece hahahahaha. You're done, counted out. I cant go on with this foolishness anymore.