You can't answer this question. Why if DM was wrongfully stripped, wasn't he desperate to fight Roy to get his belts back?
I wasn't online at this point, and I reply to other posters in order. If I'm online when you are, and you ask me a question, I won't even see it, until I've replied to my other posts first.
So Kohl just dismissed the offer even though it could be worth 10M? Do you have a source for that because that's news to me. So you don't know. It could be that the offer for this undercard slot was ½M and no guaranteed shot at Jones afterwards then? That could be possible right?
So they didn't want it because they wouldn't deal with Don King? Ask Loudon what he makes of this. I'm sure he'll say that it's a perfectly legit excuse. Unless, of course, he has double standards.
Bat, you're putting up a good fight, and that's good, because I love debating, but it's all there in black and white. I read quite a lot of your posts on other subjects, before I started debating with you, so I know you're not an idiot. It seems quite clear to everyone but you and Bailey (who'd swear that black was white) what went on. I'm assuming you're just having a bit of fun. It's obvious that the double header would have promoted the fight, and made it a huge event. Murad has told us roughly what DM was making. Now are you seriously implying (after reading 5 articles and watching a video) that you think the double header would have been only for €500K with no guaranteed shot after? Ha! Kohl dismissed the double header straight away which was stupid, because it proved that Roy and HBO wanted to hype he fight to make it big. It's literally the worst hing he could have done. Let's put things into perspective. Murad has told us what he was roughly fighting for. Now go and pull up his resume. He was fighting for not a lot of money, against B Class opposition in Germany, he then gets offered a chance to promote a fight with Roy in a double header, then Kohl takes offence (conveniently) and says DM's too good to fight on an undercard. Really Peter? You're guy's above fighting on an undercard, yet he fights nobodies in Germany for €1M. Ha! That's what I'd have said if I'd have been there. It's laughable! Kohl's a successful businessman. He would never have mad a decision like that, UNLESS it was an excuse because DM didn't want the fight. He continued to fight nobodies after the talks broke down. What does that say to you? I know what it says to me. It's as clear as the nose on my face. Kohl put up the roadblock, because they didn't want it. If you can't work that out, go and see your Doctor. People are going to start calling you Dailey soon, the Danish Bailey. Regards, Loudon.
Im not even opening threads of bailey anymore,cause its always europe vs america fighters threads,wide ud for europe fighters,dont matter who is it. He used to have some good threads b4 as i saw.
I've got no problem with this at all. This should have made him more determined to fight Roy in 2001, when he had the chance. But it didn't.
So far nothing indicates that what I wrote could not be true. The problem is that you are not allowing for other possible scenarios than the ones that fits your agenda. Think about it. After calling out Jones after (nearly) every single one of his defenses DM flat out turns down a 2 fight offer where the latter fight being the one he craves more than anything. I mean turns it down without even looking at it! That's what you are saying! If such an offer is turned down then surely it must be because it was very far what they wanted wouldn't you think? Knowing that Jones was very hard to deal with that could be at least possible? You have to give me that.
If he was wrongfully stripped, then saw Roy win his old belts and be declared the man at 175, while he was fighting b class opposition for decent money, wouldn't you have thought that he'd have jumped at the chance to fight Roy for great money, to try and get them back??
He called out Jones after (nearly) every single one of his record breaking number of defenses. It doesn't appear as if Jones wanted to fight him though as he likely only gave an offer for a slot at a Jones undercard worth peanuts.