Discuss your non biased opinion of Haye vs Wlad

Vladimir23 · Jul 18, 2012

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Here is how E$PN reported the fight. This says it all:

"Wladimir Klitschko W12 David Haye

Heavyweight

Unifies three heavyweight titles

Scores: 118-108, 117-109, 116-110

Records: Klitschko (56-3, 49 KOs); Haye (25-2, 23 KOs)
As a cruiserweight, England's Haye, 30, was a legitimate champion. At heavyweight, he has been nothing more than an overrated, loudmouthed paper titleholder whose bark turned out to be all he had -- because there was no bite. After spending most of the past three years calling out Wladimir Klitschko and his older brother, fellow titleholder Vitali, insulting them at every turn and disrespecting them time and again, Haye finally got in the ring after twice pulling out on them. He had bailed on a signed fight with Wladimir in 2009, citing an injury nobody believed, and then later in the year agreed to fight Vitali but signed to fight Nikolai Valuev for his belt instead. Finally, however, Haye showed up in the ring to fight Wladimir in a much-anticipated bout, mostly because of Haye's outrageous boasts about how he was going to brutally destroy Klitschko and send him to the hospital.

Instead, he was a toothless tiger, who did nothing to remotely back up his talk. Klitschko, with three inches and 30 pounds on him -- not to mention being better than Haye in every aspect of boxing, with the exception perhaps being speed -- took him apart. He jabbed, threw left hooks and right hands and moved forward throughout the fight. But Haye, who accused Klitschko of being boring, ran away the entire fight and turned in one of the most awful big-fight performances in history. Before the bout, HBO's Larry Merchant nailed it when said of Haye, "He's blown the trumpet. Now, will he charge?" The answer was a resounding no. Haye was the boring one because he refused to engage. He seemed utterly petrified to taste Klitschko's tremendous power. He was defensive and rarely let his hands go, connecting on a pathetic 72 of an even more pathetic 290 punches (which means he threw an average of just 24 punches per round). Klitschko, meanwhile, stalked him and landed 134 of 509 blows, according to CompuBox statistics.

What Haye seemed to do more than punch was look for help from referee Geno Rodriguez and flop to the mat because of phantom pushes. After a few flops, Rodriguez bought the con job and docked a point from Klitschko for pushing Haye down in the seventh round. In the 11th round, with Haye already out of it on the scorecards, he flopped again. This time, Rodriguez was hip to Haye's act and ruled it a knockdown. It was one of the more inventive makeup calls from a referee you'll ever see.

Klitschko, 35, racked up round after round as he rolled to the lopsided decision, unifying three of the major belts and leaving no doubt that he is clearly the No. 1 heavyweight in the world. The only fighter even close is Vitali, and the brothers and best friends have, for obvious reasons, vowed never to fight each other. Complain about Klitschko's style all you want, but it's damn effective. There is nobody to even give him a challenge right now as he moved to 10-0 with eight knockouts during this, his second title reign. He is 17-2 with 14 knockouts overall in world title bouts and hasn't been in a remotely competitive fight since his first fight with Samuel Peter in 2005.

Haye's excuse for the putrid performance was a broken pinkie toe on his right foot that he supposedly suffered three weeks before the fight. The jokes to be made here are endless. But let's take Haye at his word and believe he really was injured. Still, to hear him blame his loss on a three-week-old small toe injury was laughable. Think about Arturo Gatti fighting through horrible cuts and busted hands. Think about Tomasz Adamek fighting a blood-soaked war with Paul Briggs despite having broken his nose a couple of weeks before the fight. The list of true warriors is endless. Haye simply got his butt whipped by a better, bigger, smarter, more talented fighter and had to have an alibi for his woeful performance. So he blamed it on the toe, which he eagerly showed off after the fight. (Frankly, it only looked a little swollen.) The toe excuse is destined to go down among the all-time best excuses in sports. Haye put himself in this position. He was in a (toe?) jam here because, had he pulled out because of the injury, he would have been a laughingstock for ducking the Klitschkos for a third time. So he went through with the fight, got routed and then made up excuses that made him a laughingstock anyway. All the while, the classy Klitschko, a native of Ukraine who has fought mostly in Germany, added yet another notch on his surefire first-ballot Hall of Fame résumé. Who's next?"
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deal:deal

BoxingFan2010 · Jul 18, 2012

shaunster101 said: ↑

That avatar is ****ing genius.

My take on the fight . . .

Wlad came out and dominated behind the jab keeping great distance between himself and Haye, but was surprised by Haye's reflexes and ability to slip punches. This meant he was even more cautious with the right hand. And just focused on keeping Haye pinned down with the jab, and either tying Haye up or backing up and resetting when Haye came forward.

Haye's tactics were obviously to come out and focus on not getting caught with anything big, and try to go after Wlad when he backed up and land something big. Haye wasn't expecting Wlad to be able to keep the distance anywhere near as much as he could, and was surprised by how fast Wlad could back up out of Danger. This meant he could not get in punching range, and was falling short with his punches and falling off balance. Basically he realised he couldn't land **** and become reluctant to throw.

This resulted in a pretty dull stalemate with Wlad content on keeping Haye backed up behind the jab, and Haye concentrating on not getting caught by anything big while being reluctant to attack and leave himself open.
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Have to say I agree with you. Haye & Wlad could have both done much better in that fight.

millertime1367 · Jul 18, 2012

Rico Spadafora said: ↑

A rematch? :roflatsch

You must be a glutton for punishment. Was a boring fight with huge hype. After seeing Haye against Valuev and Wlad it is why I have no desire to see him against Vitali.
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the fight didnt end with a KO to match with the hype, yet it was a very technical fight and i would be interested in a rematch...hard to sell to casual fans maybe...but hype worthy again for sure

are fights only exciting for u if there is a KO in which u can label someone's chin glass??

Ding · Jul 18, 2012

118-110

leaduppercut · Jul 19, 2012

I still don't get how some people can say Thompson ( in the first fight) did better than haye

baldbull · Jul 19, 2012

All the **** talking and hype and it ended up being a boring fight, imagine that.

reed_man02 · Jul 19, 2012

Im not a fan of either fighter. In fact I hate both and this fight is a big reason why. This was suppose to be some amazing fight and instead It reminded why the HW divison sucks so bad.

MrOliverKlozoff · Jul 19, 2012

reed_man02 said: ↑

Im not a fan of either fighter. In fact I hate both and this fight is a big reason why. This was suppose to be some amazing fight and instead It reminded why the HW divison sucks so bad.
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No, what sucks is being overrun with a bunch of crude fatties who don't want to fight anybody until they have their one big payday secured. Not two top shelf, in-shape heavies in a chess match.

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