Dispelling the myth... Oscar vs Floyd

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TroubleLurks, May 9, 2008.


  1. TroubleLurks

    TroubleLurks **** spell check Full Member

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    We all know that Oscar stopped using his jab, his best weapon, after the 8th round. Everyone claims Oscar stopped using his jab because of Floyds counters. This myth has gone on long enough.

    I have long said that Oscar stopped throwing his jab because of fatigue, NOT because of counters.

    Floyd counters off Oscar's jab...
    Rd 1 = 0
    Rd 2 = 2
    Rd 3 = 1
    Rd 4 = 1
    Rd 5 = 2
    Rd 6 = 0
    Rd 7 = 0
    Rd 8 = 2

    And that's being very generous. At least half those are just jab counters by Floyd. Enough with this myth already.
     
  2. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I really didn't see Floyd effectively use the pull-counter on Oscar. I remember one nice clean pull-counter off the ropes early in round 3 (or 4?), but Oscar took it well.
     
  3. TroubleLurks

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    Nice to see someone else has eyes and wasn't influenced by Lampleys incorrect analysis.:good
     
  4. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    One thing though that i HATE is, when a guy wins a fight, and people say it was because the guy who lost the fight did something that made him lose, and not the winner actualy deserves credit for the win.

    Im not a fan of either fighter BTW.
     
  5. MattMattMatt

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    It can be disrepectful to the winner if they deserve the praise, sometimes though it is simply a matter of the winner not changing gameplan throughout the fight and the loser making an incorrect adjustment that loses them the fight, in which case that kind of analysis would be correct.
     
  6. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Oscar didn't want to get hit period, he fought PBF just like he fought SSM in the rematch, instead of fighting to win he fought not get hurt and that's why he lost.
     
  7. Spitbucket

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    Ironically that's how PBF wins his fights:think
     
  8. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Mayweather has excellent defense but his attack is underrated. He lands a lot.

    Nobody that fights to avoid getting hurt lands so much accurate punches like Mayweather. Mayweather's punch stats are impressive.
     
  9. Spitbucket

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    ...but you're still unwilling to admit that Floyd's a "safety-first" fighter:think
     
  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Admittedly he is. But if that's not working, he will fight hard as opposed to giving up and taking the loss. He fought hard while injured against Castillo, a fight I am pretty sure he lost at this point. Just food for thought.
     
  11. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His style definitely avoids brawls and could be described as safety-first. But he's also very efficient when attacking and landing punches.
     
  12. TheGreat

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    That's how he fights and there is nothing wrong with it but DLH has a way of freezing up and fighting like he is scared when he is in the ring with an elite fighter, He did it against Tito, Mosley in th 2nd fight and he did it with PBF.
     
  13. Spitbucket

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    Ok so we all agree Floyd is a safety-first fighter:thumbsup

    ..now in regards to DLH ".has a way freezing up and fighting like he is scared....":think
     
  14. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's primarily a defensive counter puncher who as shown against Chavez, Corley, Castillo and Hatton his excellent at mixing it up on the inside.

    The term safety and boxing dont go together.
     
  15. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    The first fight was very close.


    Oscar did look good on May 3rd. He wasnt as tense as usual and didnt tire in the late rounds.

    I think it is possible for Oscar to get a close UD over PBF in the fall.