Dispute this analysis of Floyd's resume vs Pac's.

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  1. Slothrop

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    Manny Pacquiao

    Notable Wins:
    Chatchai Sasakul (WBC FW Champion)
    Lehlohonolo Ledwaba (IBF SBW Champion)
    Jorge Eliecer Julio <Post-Prime>
    Marco Antonio Barrera [x2] (future HOFer) <Late Prime in 1st , Over the hill in 2nd>
    Hector Velazquez
    Erik Morales [x2] (future HOFer) <Over the hill in both, but washed up in 2nd>
    Oscar Larios
    Jorge Solis <Undefeated>
    Juan Manuel Marquez (WBC SF Champion, future HOFer)
    David Diaz (WBC LW Champion)
    Oscar De La Hoya (future HOFer) <Over the hill & Massively Underweight>
    Ricky Hatton (Future HOFer) <Ring Magazine JWW Champion> <Post-Prime>
    Notable Losses:
    Medgoen Singsurat <Manny Pre-Prime>
    Erik Morales I
    Questionable Wins:
    Juan Manuel Marquez II

    *Solis has not beat anyone of significance, but he's also never lost to anyone besides Manny. In these situations I rate a guy B-.

    Career Record: 49 wins (36 by way of KO), 3losses (2 by KO), and 2 draws. 6 time world champion in 6 weight divisions. Defeated 5 future hall of famers, 2 of which were still prime.

    'A' level wins:
    Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez
    'A-' level wins:
    Erik Morales I, Marco Antonio Barrera II
    'B' level wins:
    Chatchai Sasakul, Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, Erik Morales II, Oscar Larios, David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton
    'B-' level wins:
    Jorge Eliecer Julio, Hector Velazquez, Jorge Solis

    Point Total: 4 + 2.25 + 6.5 + 1.5 &#8211; 4 = 10.25

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    Floyd Mayweather Jr:

    Notable Wins:
    Genaro Hernandez (WBC SF Champion) <Post-Prime>
    Angel Manfredy
    Gregorio Vargas
    Diego Corrales (Undefeated, future HOFer)
    Carlos Hernandez
    Jesus Chavez
    Jose Luis Castillo [x2] (WBC LW Champion, future HOFer)
    DeMarcus Corley
    Arturo Gatti (WBC JWW Champion, future HOFer) <Over the hill>
    Sharmba Mitchell <Over the hill>
    Zab Judah (IBF WW Champion)
    Carlos Baldomir (WBC & Ring WW Champion)
    Oscar De La Hoya (WBC JMW Champion, future HOFer) <Post-Prime>
    Ricky Hatton (Undefeated JWW Ring Champion, future HOFer)
    Questionable Wins:
    Jose Luis Castillo I

    Career Record: 39 wins, 25 KOs, no draws, and no defeats. 6 time world champion in 5 weight divisions. Defeated 5 future hall of famers, 3 of which were in their prime.

    'A' level wins:
    Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo (x2)
    'A-' level wins:
    Zab Judah, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton
    'B' level wins:
    Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Jesus Chavez, DeMarcus Corley, Sharmba Mitchell, Carlos Baldomir
    'B-' level wins:
    Gregorio Vargas, Carlos Hernandez, Arturo Gatti
    Point Total: 5 + 4.5 + 6 + 1.5 &#8211; 0 = 17
     
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  2. Slothrop

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    :bump
     
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  3. Slothrop

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    This actually looks more reasonable the more I look at it. Anyone disagree?
     
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  4. Locke

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    Why is Hatton a B for Pac and an A- for Floyd?
     
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  5. Slothrop

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    Apparently because Hatton had slid some since fighting Floyd.
     
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  6. Kostya Zoo

    Kostya Zoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah....


    so slothrop the more I look at it the less reasonable it seems.


    explain how the points work, exactly?
     
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  7. johnnywalkitoff

    johnnywalkitoff Member Full Member

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    you a reader of gravity's rainbow?
    and Hatton deserves to be an a (if not higher for pac) for both fighters as pac went up to meet him and mayweather made ricky come up...and, all this ricky's shot bull**** is getting out of hand; he has ruled 140 for 4 years never losing at the weight 44 and 0 with his previous outing being a beatdown of malignagi, the legitimate contender to his jr. welterweight throne. he is shot in that he shouldn't ever try to climb up the pound for pound ranks, but as a solid champion I think he could still make some noise at 140 and I ain't a fan or anything.
     
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  8. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree Manny has the better resume'...

    Nice analasys.....
     
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  9. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    Um... read it again.
     
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  10. BlueApollo

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    How had he slid? He had a small amount of trouble against a highly motivated career light welter in Lazcano, then absolutely dominated Malinaggi. People discussed this at length before Saturday, and almost nobody said Hatton was past his prime that I saw. Manny was just that completely dominant.

    IMO, Barrera was way more past prime fighting Manny than Hatton was.

    A "B" for crushing a virtually prime Hatton in his own natural weight class versus an "A-" for Floyd who fought him at 147? I don't think so.

    I'd also seriously consider rating Floyd's win over Judah a "B" on your scale. The guy was coming off of a loss to Carlos Baldomir and outside of the Spinks win, has never consistently proven himself at the highest level.

    Go ahead and make the Mitchell win a "B-" also. Sharmba was shot and fighting above his best weight.
     
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  11. nhojrem

    nhojrem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    a mathematical equation for boxing,it does really exist...!!
    wtf...!!
     
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  12. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    How about they put eachother on their resume and we'll find out....
     
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  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He was also fight outside his division vs. Floyd. Guess that doesn't matter?
     
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  14. Stovepipe

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    Pac wins the comparison. I do not believe it to be that close. Maybe at some point I will make an elaborate break down.
     
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  15. nhojrem

    nhojrem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    fu(k the resume..make pac/floyd happen that will be the deciding factor..
     
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