Disputes about the officials in Fury - Usyk

dannyboy147 · Jan 27, 2024

Usyk will surely want the same ref that saved him in the Dubois fight

AdamT · Jan 27, 2024

dannyboy147 said: ↑

Usyk will surely want the same ref that saved him in the Dubois fight
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That was a low blow
Usyk has his balls just under his belly button

KINGWILDER · Jan 27, 2024

dannyboy147 said: ↑

Usyk will surely want the same ref that saved him in the Dubois fight
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He was a good referee, he actually knows the rules of boxing unlike some on here.

Mickc · Jan 27, 2024

Fury v Cunningham all you need to know !
https://www.phillyboxinghistory.com/fight_stories/stories/2013/20130902_cunningham_01.htm

BrokerNYC · Jan 27, 2024

lordlosh said: ↑

There is a big disputes between the 2 camps of Usyk and Fury about the officials.

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I'm sorry for all the Fury fanboys on here, but this is ridiculous.
Fury and his team knows he can't win this fight by the Boxing rules, and they want British referee, and the corrupt paid off British judges.

I hope Usyk team pulls out of the fight, if they don't get a completely neutral and strong officials.

Fury is the dirtiest cheater in Boxing.

Just a few of his dirty tricks:

He is always getting long counts when he is KD, and given extra time to recover.
Getting gift decision like the McDermott and Ngannou ones.

Dirty as f**** and somehow even though everyone knows he is one of the dirtiest boxers, referee always seems to miss his tricks.
Aka blatant elbows, the Cunningham illegal KO, push on the Whyte, constant holding, leaning and hitting when holding, all of which are illegal. Excessive clinching, which is illegal as well.
Shots behind the back of the head.
Punches with open gloves - illegal in boxing
Don't want to enter the Gloves conspiracy theory.

But just his last fight is a pure example of the blatant support Fury gets. Absolutely robbing Ngannou of a win. Clear 100% intentional elbow. Clear 100% KD not given to Ngannou. Constantly trying to hug and hold on Ngannou.

Absolutely garbage from team Fury, but i didn't expect nothing else. He would have never fight Usyk on equal terms, this was clear from the get going. So he is trying to get all the advantages he can get.

Just for a example, the first fight against AJ, there was 1 UK referee, 1 from USA and 1 was from the Ukraine.
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Stop watching MSNBC!!!

These fights in Saudi always have these negotiations, it’s just pre fight posturing, Usyk team are probably putting their foot down because of the criminal split decision against AJ when it should have been a clear victory..

Don’t care about any of this as long as the fight happens.. Boxing is full of contentious decisions anyway

snake33 · Jan 27, 2024

Usyk wants officials that will call a low blow on a legal body shot.
Fury wants body shots to count. Because he can beat Usyk with one or two solid body shots.
I don't think Usyk should be allowed to cheat like he did against Dubois.
I would think that fans who believe he is the 2nd coming of John L would not see a need for Usyk to cheat.

Grinder · Jan 27, 2024

lordlosh said: ↑

They waited for the last moment to try to pressure Usyk team, absolutely pathetic.
How this guy have still have fans is beyond me ... This just speaks volume what person you need to be to still support that coward.

He was aging Usyk for a good 1+ year, literally get all the advantages he can get, as far as date, and the fight to be on the day he wanted it to be, on top of that they even cancel the fight already, as the fight should have already happen. Get all the warm ups he wanted to get, etc, etc, and still want to handicap Usyk.

This is why i'm hating on Boxing and very soon will stop watching this s****show.
It's one thing Fighter A to take 60-70-80% of the split, but on the fight night, and in the ring everything has to be clean and fair, and both fighter to start at even.

It's clear what team Fury wants. Corrupt UK referee and on top of that judges, which are known for the most blatant robberies and corruption there can be. Fury to literally get away with everything he can, aka break every single rule there is, hit every illegal shot he can, and literally fought at MMA rules + lowblows for him, and Usyk to be handicapped.
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Boxing is going down the toilet. It will completely end when the Saudi money runs dry - the Saudis are not stupid, and finally noone will be willing to fight.

Grinder · Jan 27, 2024

snake33 said: ↑

Usyk wants officials that will call a low blow on a legal body shot.
Fury wants body shots to count. Because he can beat Usyk with one or two solid body shots.
I don't think Usyk should be allowed to cheat like he did against Dubois.
I would think that fans who believe he is the 2nd coming of John L would not see a need for Usyk to cheat.
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Your user name is accurate, but should add that YDKSAB, because if you think Usyk was punched legally by Dubois, you don't even know the rules.

Grinder · Jan 27, 2024

lordlosh said: ↑

This just sums up Fury fans level and the IQ of the particular individual.
It's known fact when person start insulting in a discussion.
Go back to kindergarten with this child insults.

And it's not much you have to do, to see what is wrong with the Internet, just look at the mirror.
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The internet allows bias people with double digit IQs to post with reckless impunity. This forum is a perfect example.

mrbigshot · Jan 27, 2024

lordlosh said: ↑

It's known fact when person start insulting in a discussion.

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I here respectfully agree with you . Good posting

C.J. · Jan 27, 2024

Badbot said: ↑

Anything below the belly button is a low blow, deal with it.
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100 % Correct Obviously Tony Weekes & the Fury fans think the belly button is on same level as the testes
Referees need to abide by the M of Q rules & not try to make their own

C.J. · Jan 27, 2024

mrbigshot said: ↑

You are right . But imho the belly button is only a common reference being in the vicinity. The actual rule is the line between the upper end of both hip bones .

Problem is like you write correctly the not clear definition of this and some boxers are using high beltlines / high shorts covering the navel to actually limit the target area of bodyshots .

Even when a referee does not rule a hit on a very high beltine as a low blow the protector will still absorb much of the energy and so the effects of a basicly legal bodyshot .
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Obviously , if you believe that fairy tale , you have never boxed of received a low blow. Ive heard people bragging fighters about punching on the hip flexors deliberately lol The foul line is the waist The navel End of story

C.J. · Jan 27, 2024

mrbigshot said: ↑

Thats exactly the problem you point correctly out

https://boxing-social.com/news/referee-clarifies-usyk-dubois-low-blow/

But Its more a referee interpretation than a crystal clear regulation . Usually in pre fight talks the referee explains what he will rule as a low blow and what not . The trainers know the refeeres and their style of ruling . So when they know ( i exageratte a bit ) the referee is happy with nipple high shorts but waves off any hit on the protector they intentionally cloth their boxers in a way to cover weak spots from a body shot .

Normally the low blow rule should be there to protect the jewels and not to cheat out a weakness in eating body shots .
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Your explanation was blown clean out of the water when you used Reiss as your "esteemed referee" on the low blow debate. That's like saying the Vegas officials are innocent of any bias LOL

lordlosh · Jan 27, 2024

Nqh i stop reading some of the posts, as from people who have no f**** idea about the rules, and clearly have never trained anything in their life.
Usyk is one of the cleanest fighter the boxing has ever seen. And seeing people hating on him, just speaks volume for the persons.
Just beyond biased people who doesn't care about the rules, and are also clueless.
Usyk never faked a punch, he is always showing when the opponents punch land illegally. As you are not suppose to hit low, or to the side, aka kidney area > illegal punch, same goes for hips area, as there is bone there, and it's illegal to hit in there.

Even in Kyokushin, which is mainly body punching(you are not allowed to hit the head with punches), there is clear rules and they are strictly obeyed. And i give Kyokushin as example, as fighters goes all in with all kind of fast combination to the body, yet if anything land illegally it's called straight away. Same for MMA. Land illegal shot you are going to end up DQ or point deducted.

Yet Boxing is the only sport where fanboys seems to ignore the rules when it comes to fighter they like/dislike completely. Close an eye to obvious robberies and illegal tactics.

Curious how there were so many complainers about Klitschko style, even though Klitschko was at least a power puncher and was throwing tons of punches, and were million times cleaner fighter than Fury. But when it comes to Fury, his fans seems to completely close eyes on his dirty tactics and how ugly and bad he makes Boxing to look.

This response from Fury fans is a clear sign how scared they are and that they clearly knows that the only way Fury wins this fight is by illegal tactics, aka cheating.

So goes all the Fury "skills". The guy is 50 pounds heavier than Usyk, have a huge size advantage, huge heigh advantage, huge reach advantage, is almost 2 years younger, but that is not enough, so he needs all the biased corrupt UK officials he can get, to even stand a change against Usyk.

This just speaks volume. What happen guys? Wasn't Usyk just a middleweight ?

Babality · Jan 27, 2024

Fury is petrified.

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