DLH is claiming he is a 10-time World Champion

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  1. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm in L.A. for work right now and on the radio, Golden Boy Promotions has an ad for the DLH-Forbes fight. Interesting of note is that the commercial states "10-Time World Champion Oscar De La Hoya" over and over.

    This got me to thinking. Is it OK for DLH to claim his early WBO belts at the lower weights and his IBA belts in the upper weights as legitimate world titles?

    I mean, the WBO has gained recognition from the boxing media NOW in the last 2-3 years, but DLH won these belts in an era where guys the caliber of Damiani and Morrison held the WBO version of the belts in their division. An era where the WBO once elevated a guy in the rankings...who had a slight roadblock in his career called death.

    For the ordinary fan, it doesn't matter and it might sell more tickets. But for the boxing purists, that has to be pretty disrespectful, if not irresponsible.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He can claim to be a 100 time World Champ for all I care. History, and historians, know better.
     
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  3. NESTORRDEA

    NESTORRDEA Active Member Full Member

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    Good Technical Question !
     
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  4. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont know I guess you gotta count the WBO cause even back then they called him a world Champion from watching his fights back then on DVD so I guess you gotta count them. But lets count em up.

    WBO 130 vs Bredahl
    WBO 135 vs Paez
    IBF 135 vs Ruleas
    WBC 140 vs Chavez
    WBC 147 vs Whitaker
    WBC 154 vs Castillejo
    WBA 154 vs Vargas
    WBO 160 vs Sturm
    WBC 154 vs Mayorga

    Thats 9 unless im forgetting something and thats pretty impressive.
     
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  5. venomus_p4p

    venomus_p4p Guest

    He's alowed to say anything he pleases. He's got money!
     
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  6. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess it's not a big deal either way, but I just want to know what the fans think in terms of them feeling their intelligence insulted or otherwise.

    I'd like to hear both sides of the DLH spectrum, from the haters (ex. Divac) to the superfans (ex. Widdow Maker).

    Does something like this help the sport, hurt the sport, or have no relevant effect in the long run? Because to me, that would be like someone coming up to me and saying the Patriots are 4-Time NFL Champs by way of going undefeated in the regular season.
     
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  7. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I respect the WBO belt even back then. I know what you mean by Morrison and the Italian, but the HW seemed to not hold water back then. The lighter weights did somehow. HBO tried not to acknowledge Camacho when he held the WBO 140 belt. HBO always threw roadblocks when it came to the WBO, but a majority of fight fans and media excepted the WBO. I don't know about these other belts growing out like weeds: IBO, WBF, IBA, CNN.
     
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  8. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the 10th is when he won the IBA belt at 154 as a throw-in in the Vargas fight. No doubt it's impressive.

    But like I said above, with that argument, then is Ricky Hatton 5-time world champ at 140 for his IBF (twice), WBA, WBU and IBO belts?
     
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  9. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    HE owns boxing and now owns all sancitiong bodies as well as the ring . he basicly owns boxing

    be careful cuz i hear ESB is next and Widdowmaker is just finalizing everything.

    DLH can do as he pleases just as long as he makes good fights
     
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  10. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you count his IBF and WBO titles at 135 as being world champion twice, despite being won during the same reign?

    That's like calling Hopkins a 4-time middleweight world champion; and Calzaghe a 4-time Super middleweight world champion.
     
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  11. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whenever a fighter unifies a LEGIT world title, you have to count it as a 2-Time World Champion. He won a world title belt. Therefore he is a champion again.

    However, the key word is LEGIT for it to be counted.
     
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  12. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    WBO is certainly a title to count. Just ask Calzaghe. His entire legacy depends on it.
     
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  13. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    SHUT UP FAT *****:fire
     
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  14. Bslice

    Bslice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I want to bang the hell out of the girl in your avatar...unless she's under 18 which I cant tell
     
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  15. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    WBU and IBO arent legitmate belts. Hes a 3 time World Champion but do u make him a 4 time Champion and add the Ring belt. Its all ****ing wack to me.
     
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