DLH, Mosely are better fighters than Floyd all around.

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  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Exactly, the guy has NEVER fought a prime elite fighter, meaning a true to form A level fighter, Oscar's fought many and while I think he recieved some gift decisions, he still was competitive with them all, guys that would have killed Floyd.

    Castillo and Corrales aren't elite fighters.
     
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  2. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Well, I usually agree with these things from you, but very little of this thread do I honestly agree with.
     
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  3. Miles5149

    Miles5149 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good thread, couldn't agree more
     
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  4. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    :deal
     
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  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    What do you not agree with?

    Of which of Floyd's comp does Mosely and Oscar not easily beat?

    Of which of Mosely and Oscar's top comp from 135-154 does not easily beat Joy Boy at these weights?

    The Castillo fights are really a wake up call for anybody who thinks Floyd is ever going to beat real elite pressure fighters, then how he's generally never dominated but one B+ fighter in Corrales, albeit showing enough at 130 to be the H2H top there....

    **** guys, Oscar at 135-140 is also a H2H monster just as good and there are BETTER ****ing fighters that fought at those weights.

    Oscar likely loses to a guy like Pryor, but he's going to be seriously competitive, Floyd would just get obliterated by a prime Pryor at 140, that's ATG level pressure/swarming guys, not ****ing B+ pressure.

    Floyd's resume is a very good one, just not on the level of some of his near-past contemporaries.
     
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  6. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Floyd is more skilled than they are. But I'd still pick prime versions of Mosley and DLH to beat him everytime.
     
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  7. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: :patsch

    A Calzaghe fan using RESUME (of all things) to indicate why Floyd is not as good as Oscar or Mosely?! :scaredas:

    Now I've seen it all.
     
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  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    At least, at ****ing least, Calzaghe has fought a prime elite fighter at his best weight class.

    Not even suggesting that Calzaghe's overall resume is where Floyd's is standing, OR where DLH's is standing.

    I'm just saying Floyd doesn't deserve the accolades he gets when he's taken the least possible path of resistance in his prime, when he can get any fight he wanted due to his name status, where as other top fighters are often stuck in spots due to risk/reward.

    And Oscar and Mosely would shred through Floyd's entire resume, easy. There is not one fighter in his resume at the time he fought them that would give good versions of Mosely and Oscar real problems.
     
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  9. pirlo

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    One word - LOL.
     
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  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    What parts don't you agree with?
     
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  11. Sweet Pea

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    They do beat most of it, if not all.

    Which do is the better question? The ones who dominated Shane would likely beat Floyd, Winky anyway. I think Forrest is hugely overrated though. Not adaptable at all.

    :lol: At the old, shot Chavez beating Floyd. I'd favor Floyd over Mosley at LW at least, WW is a closer call. Vargas, Quartey, and Tito I may favor, though some of them are interesting matchups, namely Trinidad.

    True, but Chavez was no better at that stage than Castillo, if even that good, and Floyd beat him pretty handily in the rematch. As far as the others, which qualify as technical, stalking pressure fighter in the mold of Castillo?

    He was excellent at the weights, no doubt, and I may slightly favor him over Floyd at 140, but not Shane, and I don't agree with you that the majority of their comp, especially an old Chavez, Forrest, etc would handily beat Floyd.

    Based on styles, I may agree.

    Agreed, but still better than Mosley's.
     
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  12. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd argue that Floyd's 130 pound (his best weight) resume is greater than Calzaghe's 168 resume. So I dunno what you mean there?

    Phew :D

    And what does this really mean? RJJ, Toney and Hopkins (in their primes) would have done MUCH MUCH worse to the entire Calzaghe resume... Yet I keep hearing Calzaghe UD Toney?

    That's probably true though, but there's also the flip side. I'd personally only tip Wright from Mosely's resume over Floyd, but that was at 154. So hardly fair. And this bull **** about Forrest or Cotto (or Oscar), na. That's only opinion. Floyd beats all, imo, with Forrest's height and style being the hardest to over-come.

    Floyd would eat ALL of Oscar's pre-147 resume.... EAT. At 147 and above, yes, there are possibly a few names I'd favour over Floyd. But tipping 154 pounders and 160 pounders over lil Floyd hardly seems like something to bring Floyd down about.
     
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  13. Scorpion

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    Good argument but the man did start a a very low weightclass.
     
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  14. Relentless

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    lightweight shane mosley was the ultimate fighter, he was just too awesome!
     
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  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    And Tommy:good
     
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