DLH v Whitaker

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  1. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Let's be serious
    The outcome of the fight was determined
    Before the fight was over.
     
  2. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    They didn't even need to fight, the coulda just hands the belt to oscar. Just like Canelo Lara. Why even have the fight?
     
  3. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Just another black eye for boxing
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Completely disagree with this old boxing trope. How does it even work? Are judges supposed to tilt their scoring in favor of the champion? Maybe adjust their cards at the end of the fight?
     
  5. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    I was wondering the same thing in giving the fight to the young up and coming talent.
     
  6. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Time and time again it's out with the old and in with the new. Really disrespectful to future hall of famers.
     
  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not a robbery at any stretch. Close fight that could have gone either way and it went Oscar's way. That's all.

    I think I had DLH up by a point.
     
  8. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, it means exactly what it says is means, he needs to be the champion and take his title. So as you're watching the fight, and the fight is particular close i.e. drawish... the champion should retain his title. Clearly people thought Pea won, the eb and flow certainly seemed like Pea was the general in that fight, and thus it should be easy enough to determine such things. The reality is, nobody left that fight thinking Hoya proved the superior boxer. So trying a SRL and flurrying at the end of rounds but landing minimally, didn't push him over the edge. The reality of the fight that can never be escaped is... Pea landed more and at a higher percentage and controlled the fight. While scoring the only KD of the fight. That isn't a performance I'd laud as a winning one.
     
  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Well put!
     
  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sat down and scored this again last weekend. Saw there was a thread on this and here we go.

    Round 1: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 2: 10-9 DeLaHoya
    Round 3: 10-9 DeLaHoya (I actually had it 10-10 but that was a silly decision to deduct a point for the accidental butt from PW)
    Round 4: 10-9 DeLaHoya
    Round 5: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 6: 10-9 Whitaker
    Round 7: 10-9 DeLaHoya
    Round 8: 10-9 DeLaHoya
    Round 9: 10-8 Whitaker (bad call on the knockdown - nobody seemd to notice that OD's left leg and Pw's right leg was tangled)
    Round 10: 10-9 DeLaHoya
    Round 11: 10-10 Even
    Round 12: 10-9 DeLaHoya

    Total: 115-113 DeLaHoya

    I had it closer than the judges but the same winner.
     
  11. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Robbery. Pea landed more punches and. Had the kd.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm on your side regarding this topic. You judge each round independently of the others and independently of who's the champ and who's the challenger.

    This idea of having to decisively win the fight if you're the challenger, is nice in theory, but I can pretty much guarantee it's not in any judging manual.
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    It was a very close fight. You could easily argue 7 rounds for both men. Pea got a bs deduction, Hoya got a bs kd.

    It wouldn't have been a robbery had pea won or had it been a draw.

    I've always scored it for Hoya myself but I can see it been given to pea.

    Just a very close fight is all.
     
  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A draw would have been fair.Judges got swayed by the crowd.

    Pea was a legend and the champion. DH did not do enough to beat him.
     
  15. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Round 11 was a clear Whitaker round. Rounds 4 and 10 are also debatable.