DLH vs. Kostya Tzsyu @ 140 peak to peak.

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  1. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats the thing with Hurtado and Urkal he was getting caught trying to cover the ground, because they were the taller fighter.
    Pro Kostya didnt have consistent head movement like he did in the pros, in every fight he got caught by something silly.
    It happened for all to see, its just Hurtado had no chin to hang with Tszyu and Urkal had no power to keep him off.

    As I stated MSTR its the attributes of these fighters that gave KT trouble, but they didnt have it all and one thing or another prevented them from taking the advantage.

    Oscar had it all speed, skill, a pretty good chin, power, the size and he was all round a polished fighter by then.
    I dont think Kostya would have been all that much stronger than DLH, it would be marginal at best. KT never left 140 but DLH took on and beat some bigger and stronger fighters all the way to 154.
     
  2. Napoleon

    Napoleon Smokin' Full Member

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    Probably not.

    But it was 11 votes for Oscar by decision and 7 by stoppage. For Tszyu it was 11 votes for decision and 6 for stoppage. I had to vote for stoppage.:lol:
     
  3. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

    so the number are fixed :D
     
  4. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DLH dominated 130-140 and really didnt struggle until he got to 147. Kostya was the man at 140 for a longtime but never fought as many great fighters as DLH. Also DLH dominated shorter fighter. He could counter outside throw his jab and turn left hooks to the head and body. KT was very good. Euro-style but great reflexes(people forget how he used to evade punches hands down) early on in his prime and a sledgehammer right hand. DLH has the faster hands, KT hits a lil harder, and DLH would dominate inside and out.Not in the same class.
     
  5. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's like saying if a guy like Sturm can outbox ODLH, KT would murder him.

    ****ing pointless.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    De La Hoya showed nice upperbody movement at 140lbs. He was very flexible from the waist upwards. And who can forget his ramrod jab against Gonzalez. I do agree, Tszyu doesn't have the same mobility around the ring as De La Hoya. A wide stance was something Tszyu always needed to feel comfortable for his throwing power punches. Its debatable that Tszyu could hit as hard as someone like Quartey, who dropped De La Hoya and had him wobbled on a few occassions. But De La Hoya showed a granite chin during the 9th round, when Quartey smacked him with a monster right hand.

    De La Hoya throws better combinations than Tszyu, and I feel his jab is more consistent. I'd have to pick De La Hoya to win on points. Not too sure he'd have the power to get Tszyu outta there. We would need to be talking about someone with Trinidad or Hearns when it comes to knocking out Tszyu. Although thats not really a fair comparison, as they were stricly welterweight terrorists with their hands.
     
  7. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Kostya's performance against Gonzalez was much more dominant. Kt definitely had more power then Quartey as well, who primarily lived off his jab.
     
  8. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Kostya was a very polished technician though, I think you are under estimating him. Kostya was just as well rounded. Great power, good chin, well rounded, decent hand speed. De la Hoya was a great fighter, I just think style wise Kostya takes this out. Oscar leaning forward with that chin would have been target practice for the KT right hand. I can see both fighter landing there fair share of punches, just with KT being more accurate over the stretch.
     
  9. errsta

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  10. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I think Kostya would win a close fight.
     
  11. CarltonBlues

    CarltonBlues Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oscar would whoop him and take him out late.
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You still got any of Oscar's old high hells 'kicking' around your place, Jack?

    Do they still have enough left to excite your nose (and other things) ?

    And where were you these past few days?

    Missed you !
     
  13. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    Mayweather i would say has freakish defence not oscar...

    I dont really know who would win but i do know that we wouldnt be seeing a ko..points victory for whoever wants it the most...
     
  14. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    As good as he was though his opposition cant hold a candle to De La Hoyas.

    We KNOW Oscar can win big fights, against quality opposition and against varying styles.

    I think its all speculation to think KT can handle a fighter like De La Hoya @ 140 based on his record. And I think its stretching it to think his tangible abilities were that good that it could trump anything that De la Hoya can do, especially since we have seen Oscar in action against such a high calibre of opp.
     
  15. Relentless

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    kostya is overrated.