DLH vs. Kostya Tzsyu @ 140 peak to peak.

I love this thread. Half the American's picking Oscar are spelling Tszyu wrong, which is probably an accurate representation of their knowledge on non-American fighters.

Even those who realise KT wins, will say "Oscar by controversial decison." This is either a positive, in that they recognise hpw corrupt Oscar is or they might just be that desperate to pick the American.

Oscar would need to stop KT late on, where he going to win. KT should however be a massive favorite.




Just look at how even this poll is. When a poll is that equal, and one fighter is Amercian and one is Russian-Mongol-Korean based in Australia, the reality of the situation is the Mongolian will win.

American promoted fighters always lose what are percieved as 50/50 fights against fighters without an American promoter. 50/50 means more like 85/15 once you take out the default votes from the Americanised fools.

 

- come now, CHJ. This is a pick'em fight, but I do like the fact that you don't approve of democracy.

 

It is a rule of the thumb. A really reliable one too, American promoted/based/named fighters lose 'percieved 50/50' bouts against non-American promoted/based/named fighters.

Oscar has perhaps a slight stylistic edge but he is so, so inferior to the great Tszyu, whom is one of the best 10 or 20 fighters of all time.

 

I don't know about that rule of thumb, but I'll take your word for it. US boxers are generally more "hyped up" compared to non-US boxers. Maybe its because of Americans being so much better at marketing, that they can sell sand in Sahara or water on Antarctica?

They both had great assets, that were superior to the other. I picked Tzsyu, but I believe picking Oscar is valid as well. Maybe I just don't know enough - I were just amazed with prime Oscar, when I first saw him vs danish technician Jimmy Bredahl, that I was sold, and him dismantling Chavez - blew me away - even if the background was a bit painted.

 

I picked DLH by stoppage, and I'm a BIG Tszyu fan. At 140 DLH is just too big, too fast and hits too hard for Tszyu. I don't think Tszyu, for all his great accuracy and timing, would have been able to get inside DLH's jab. After a while I see DLH landing enough to stop him. Would have been a decent fight, but I don't see Tszyu winning this at all.

 

I was never blown away by Tszyu. But watching him fight fills one with a sense of greater well-being and state of total understanding, approaching enlightenment.

Any talentless clown can try and emulate Oscar, but Tszyu, with his timing, his accuracy.. Less than 1% of world class fighters can even dream of copying him.

But don't worry, this evening plenty of Americans will log on a ruin the poll.

 

Good argument, and pretty much the reason why I picked Kostya Tzsyu; it would be very hard for Oscar to prepare for what he would face, while Kostya could. Then there is the old point of precision negates speed. In Oscars defence he could put alot of pressure on boxers - by not only using speed, but also wide range of shots.

 

Bigger guys like Quartey and Trinidad and Mosley and roided Vargas didn't do what you're suggesting. I don't see how Tszyu would have been able to, especially considering how totally unbeatable DLH was at that weight.

 

Quartey also lived off his right hand. Does Tszyu dominating Gonzalez more than De La Hoya mean that Tszyu would beat De La Hoya?.

 

Oscar by late KO.

Tzsyu is seriously overrated on this forum. Oscar is the bigger, stronger man in this fight with superior speed and power. Skillwise I'd say they're about the same, but that's where it ends.

Doesn't Oscar have the greater reach? If so, Tzsyu would have a tough time on the outside trying to land the right hand as Oscar would catch him with the left hook reaching in.

 

Look at some of the rubbish Mosely was able to land on Oscar.

Tszyu's accuracy and timing humiliates him to the point where Oscar quits boxing all together.

It would be almost comical to watch after the American predictions before the fight.