DLH vs. Kostya Tzsyu @ 140 peak to peak.

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  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tszyu has one of the most accurate, well timed rights in history.

    Tszyu is arguably one of the ten best fighters to ever lace up the gloves.
     
  2. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    With that statementwho do youhave as your top 10?
     
  3. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Someone who has **** all boxing experience talking **** about someone who's from my area and used to have the same trainer as I did. Was Ba an ATG? No, but he was a damn good fighter when he was younger.
     
  4. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Tszyu is always great to watch on film, one of those guys that jumps out as being spectacular.
     
  5. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he is talking talent wise not just Pro.

    Amatuers-Pro-Counterpunching,Cutting off the ring-Right Cross-Left Hook- Smart- Skilled- jab. I think he means in all areas.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    This fight is Tszyu against De La Hoya at 140lbs. And your a liar, as I never said De La Hoya's performance against Gonzalez would be the way he would beat Tszyu. I pointed out that De La Hoya's jab was in full effective against Gonzalez, and guess what, that fight happend to be at the 140lbs. And when comparing fights in head to head, its only natural to look at a fighters attributes when he fought at that particular weight against other opponents. And De La Hoya's jab was in tune when he fought Gonzalez, and Chavez for that matter.

    You were the one that replied to my post and said Tszyu dominated Gonzalez more than De La Hoya. So how does that make your case strong for De La Hoya beating Tszyu?. You never quoted my other post. Quartey KO'd Phillips inside 3 rounds, and Tszyu went 10 rounds with Phillips and lost, well?.

    You need to look at quality of opposition when matching two fighters head to head.
     
  7. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe
    Jones
    Ray Robinson (to be politically correct)
    Whitaker
    Mayweather
    Duran
    SRL
    Tszyu
    Lennox Lewis (though if i go by a more strict definition this 230+ pounder won't get in)
    Sanchez's ghost
     
  8. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Tsyzu also had a great left hook to the body, one of his oft forgotten punches, it'd certainly bother Oscar.
     
  9. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    You also need to look at how they performed against those opponents more importantly. KT totally dismantled some top guys, where as Oscar has lost almost all his big fights. You need to look at their skill sets, and how they would match up with each other also. I have provided this in my initial analysis, and although I think it would be a very close fight, I have stated my reasons why Kostya wins. BTW I did quote your other post, what are you talking about?
     
  10. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    so thats who bit your ass?:huh

    dont get me wrong i dont think tszyu is a bad fighter i was saying how people were flaming on me for daring to compare a up and coming cotto to an 'all time great' such as kostya tszyu, i mean what is it that makes him incomparable?

    he beats all the top contenders but i dont see him standing a chance against guys like mosley and de la hoya, he used to paw with his jab and just have a right hand.
     
  11. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Opposition has everything to do with it. Thats part of the criteria when matching two fighters head to head, but not the be all and end all. When comparing two fighters head to head its about putting the two styles together, and coming to the conclusion who you pick as the winner. But cmon now, you need to look at how fighters competed and faired against their opponents, and you also need to judge how good those opponents were as well.
     
  12. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At 35 he was still very competetive with Hatton, a stylistic nightmare.
     
  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    And I never said De La Hoya would beat Tszyu based on how he beat Gonzalez. Nonsense.
     
  14. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    see this why you are an idiot. Tszyu only had a Jab and a Right Hand you say. I guess you think he wasnt fast. I guess you missed the film were he was the Best from 1990's to the 2000's at Cutting off the Ring. I guess you missed how he could counterpunch with the best of them. I guess he had no Left Hook and was probably the most accurate puncher of all time.

    I say this go back to watching more film. It might help you more in discussions like these.
     
  15. Relentless

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    he used to paw with his jab and try time his right hand, he was like a one handed fighter trying to land the big right hand all the time, if he was such a great boxer why couldn't he handle pressure from a b class fighter?