DLH was such a fantastic boxer

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  1. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do realize Oscar was ahead on the scorecards after round 6? ANd Oscar was actually OUTBOXING hopkins. Actually if memory serves, oscar was ahead right up till the KO.
     
  2. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    You are correct. But you suck none the less
     
  3. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    No,he wasn't.One blind/corrupt judge had him ahead,but the other two had the correct score.
     
  4. Fighting Pride

    Fighting Pride Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True, for his straight up stance, being kind of stiff, head perfectly centered and not moving his head much, it's amazing he didn't get hit all too often, considering the level of fighters he consistently fought.
     
  5. Fighting Pride

    Fighting Pride Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True. He was throwing crazy flurries that looked good, but Hopkins was the one landing effectively ans shwoing the better defence.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9AQ_UDOy-A&feature=related[/ame]
     
  6. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  7. shak

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    Better boxer than a dresser for sure.



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  8. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    De la Hoyas biggest flaws were mental not physical. Its what led him to lose his biggest fights. He had a tendecy to lose his concentration and abandon or change gameplans in fights. Its noticable in his fights with Mosley 1, Quartey, trinidad and Mayweather. Love waching him fight though. He was very good technically, none too shabby defensively, had a great left hook, hand speed, power, heart, chin, basically everything.
     
  9. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True but not with Tito or Mayweather. He just simply gassed a bit in both, but with Tito he did exactly what he wanted to do. Followed the gameplan to a T and decided to take the last 2 rounds off, which cost him the fight. Although we all know who really won regardless.
    With Mosley for sure, Oscar fought a warrior fight but stupid fight also. Tried to impress the fans after the Tito fight criticism.
     
  10. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok, but it was very close even Hopkins admitted:

    At the time of the knockout, Hopkins was leading on two scorecards and De La Hoya was ahead on the third. Judge Dave Moretti had it 79-73 and judge Paul Smith 78-74 for Hopkins, while Keith Macdonald scored it 77-75 for De La Hoya. That meant that even if he had risen from the knockdown, De La Hoya would have needed a knockout to win.
    Though Hopkins admitted he was not certain after the eighth round that he was winning, and asked his corner what they thought, he knew he was taking De La Hoya into deep water and stepped up the pace in the ninth.
     
  11. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he is a very good text book fighter.
     
  12. bigdog2001

    bigdog2001 Guest

    some haters that are on here.
    You have to evaluate every fight on it's own.

    tito fight alot of people felt he won
    NO rematch becasue tito did not want it and went up in weight. he would make more money fighting de la hoya again than he would in his next fight fights but chose not to rematch and made the 60-40 bull**** exucuse and weight as an issue.

    Mosely 2. Mosely has on epo and juice. Clearly this helped him win the fight because in the later rounds he was fresh as in the first round and de la hoya gassed as any normal fighter not on epo would.

    Mayweather. De la hoya was clearly past his prime and still gave a great showing and some people though he pulled of a draw.

    Pacquiao. We all know the stroy there. His big ego got his ass in trouble and he paid the consequences.

    His only true loses were Mosely and Hopkins. Never in his prime was he dominated, never!!!
     
  13. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea rated p4p#1 ahead of Jones at one time.
    World championships in 6 different weight classes
    Gold Medalist, something Floyd couldn't even do.
    An amateur record of 200+ wins with only a handful of losses.
    Chin of granite.
    As a lightweight had a unorthodox lefthook of a heavy. Knocked guys out like Tyson in 1-2 rounds.
    Pretty text book eh?

    :lol:
     
  14. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most experts had Oscar winning both the tito and Mosley 2 fight.
    Good post though. He was never dominated or really even lost in his prime except to Mosley in their 1st fight. sturm and hopkins is irrelevant - didn't belong in that class and cleary wasn't his prime weight.
     
  15. kirk

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    Divac, your post is full of bias, hindsights, and simple inaccuracies. Im not trying to be rude but it just simply is. I am not a fan of hoya in the slightest, never have and never will, but even I can see the flaws in your assumptions and statements.



    Do you relise that the Ike, Tito and Mosley fights happened in almost a span of a year and four months? :lol: Ill forgive him for not rematching every guy he has a close fight with when he goes from one elite fighter to the next....

    Another funny thing about your post is you say 'but DLH always put fights the fans wanted to see on the backburner and milked fighting 2nd tier'

    Are you not getting the fact that he fought those guys in the first place? :lol:

    Trinidad, Ike, Mosleyx2, Vargas, Mayweather and Hopkins (im not even including guys like whitaker, pac, sturm, mayorga, ect)

    That **** speaks for itself.... you can post until your fingers are sore on how hoya milked 2nd rate fighters (Mayweather? Tito? Mosley? Ike? Hopkins? Ya ok :lol:) and how he should have rematched this person or that person in some fantasy land where everything falls into place, but the reality is that any way you cut it while being resonable, that is an impressive list of foes for one fighter to take on.

    As for pure inaccuracies, you stating he ducked winky is absurd, he offered winky winks highest purse to date for winky and winky still turned it down so youre just plain factually wrong on that one. DLH tried to get Winky in the ring, but, as usual, Winky felt he was somehow entitled to more then he is and killed the fight at the negotiating table, turning down what would have been his highest purse available.

    Or he didnt fight guys that beat the fighters that beat him?

    Pretty sure Hopkins beat Trinidad, and pretty sure Hoya went on to fight Hopkins

    People like saying that Ike beat Oscar, well he went on to fight Vargas, vargas who beat Ike soundly.

    Mosley lost to winky, who oscar tried to fight as I pointed out.

    Forrest probably would have gotten the fight had he not almost immediatly been dethroned by Mayorga (who, Oscar went on to fight)

    And he lost to Mayweather (no available opponent for him to beat there)

    Hopkins (please)

    Pac (retired after)

    Once again your making a blind statement out of bias which when actually looked at simply doesnt carry weight.

    You can call my post bull but its beyond obvious your being irrational on the subject so it doesnt bother me at all. Or maybe youre trolling idk. Or if thats truly what you believe then to each their own, we all have our own opinions but IMO youre being completely bias.