Dmitry Bivol talks about Canelo avoiding rematch and WBC's discrimination against Russian boxers

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo does not want to fight him?? Canelo made it very clear that he wants the rematch more than anything. Bivol and his manger have made it quite clear that they have no interest in a rematch with Canelo at 175. Bivol made it very clear in an interview that it's not about money. It's about winning more belts.

    And the fact is that the WBC is not allowing him to challenge Beterbiev for the WBC. The same problem exists if he were to challenge Canelo at 168. The WBC will not allow him to challenge for their World Title. If the WBC isn't allowing him to challenge Beterbiev then why would they allow him to challenge Canelo for their title at 168?

    Don't you get it? Bivol wants to fight for Undisputed, either at 175 vs Beterbiev or at 168 vs Canelo. But he can't as long as the Russia Ukraine War is going on. Yet he's acting like that's what he's trying to do, instead of rematching Canelo at 175. It makes no sense.
     
  2. BM237

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    No , you don’t get it. Canelo says 175 isn’t his weight and when offered to fight at his weight he refuses and his offer at 175 is “ I don’t wanna do it offer” . Why does he want Bivol to fight for 2.5mil when he paid bums he crushed 10 ???
    Why would Bivol be scared of ginger when he whooped him with ease???
     
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  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The "bums" he crushed lol demanded more $$, and demanded all kind of things of Canelo to agree to in order to fight him. Canelo gave them everything they wanted. Bivol didn't make those kinds of $$ demands, possibly because Canelo didn't demand anything out of him. (no catchweight, rehydration, etc) Canelo fought him straight up at 175 which few give him credit for.

    Bivol himself in an interview made it clear that him not wanting to rematch Canelo at 175 has nothing to do with $$. Yet you and several other Bivol fans are claiming that Canelo isn't agreeing to pay him more. What the hell are you talking about? Bivol made it very clear that $$ is not why he doesn't want to rematch Canelo at 175. Yet you're claimining it is. And further, you're asking why would Bivol be scared to rematch Canelo at 175 after he "whooped him with ease" the first time. That's a great question, and the answer is obvious. He's scared that he'll lose a rematch and lose his title by a "robbery" decision.

    So again, according to Bivol himself, $$ is not the issue, it's just that he simply doesn't want to rematch Canelo at 175. He wants to fight for Undisputed, at either 175 or 168 but he can't because the WBC won't allow him to challenge for their title due to the Russia Ukraine War.

    So we're stuck in no man's land. He can't do what he wants to do (at either 175 or 168) and he refuses to rematch Canelo at 175. Not for money, because he's scared of being "robbed" given how close the first fight was and how he and most fans don't think it was that close, which makes it a duck. But you're claiming it's about him not getting enough money. That's clearly not it. I'm sure Canelo and Eddie Hearn will agree to give him more $$ if he only demanded it. It dosen't sound like he has made any $$ demands because he simply doesn't want the rematch at 175.

    And the idea that Canelo doesn't want to fight him at 168 is also a myth. It's because the only reason Bivol wants to fight him at 168 is because he wants to be Undisputed, which he can't do due to the WBC's stance. Get it?
     
  4. BM237

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    Nonsense . So you really think first fight was close???:D:D
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You've glossed over the main point of the post - that Bivol can't challenge for Undisputed at either 168 or 175 due to the WBC stance on Russian fighters. Yet Canelo is being accused of not wanting to fight him at 168. Bivol is only interested in fighting him at 168 if it's for Undisputed. It can't happen at 168 until the WBC allows Russian fighters to challenge for titles.

    Further you ignore the fact that Bivol himself is on record saying that the $$ isn't the issue, yet you're claiming it is. Then you have the nerve to claim I'm talking nonsense. I proved that you were talking complete nonsense lol.
     
  6. BM237

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    I didn’t gloss over main point , I just do not read your posts . You are obsessed with Clen and would fight for him to death.
     
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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah you did. You responded to specifics while making claims that aren't factual.
     
  8. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Oh it is peace and equality the wbc state
    Sorry hes being made a victim

    But yet you have a middle east belt which the transgender community you push is excluded from fighting for
    You have a habit of picking and choosing the victims you create
    Based on what coin
    Gtfoh
     
  9. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    He wanted the belts at 168 I think you will find its clen boy said no
    Bivol wants what that boys history
     
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  10. theXshape

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    I'm confused. You are saying the same thing I did. Bivol needs Beterbiev to cement his place as the best LHW of his era, at least.
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    it was me that got confused, i misinterpreted your post. it happens.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks CJ. The giant toad with marmalade hair would get slapped up in my hood for his shenanigans and so would his groveling ginger groupies.
     
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    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bro you really on here capping for weird ass cross dressing men with mental issues and compare that to 2 countries at war… Man GTFOH
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe Bivol's ducking is a blessing in disguise. Charlo is a much bigger fight, it will bring out a lot more fans and garner a lot more interest.
     
  15. Jackman65

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    Easy money for Bivol but Canelo ducked him by offering chump change. I don’t blame Canelo, Bivol beat his ass last time. Still a duck.
     
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