Dmitry Yuryevich Bivol vs. Gilberto Ramírez Sánchez & Shavkatdzhon Rakhimov vs. Zelfa Barrett RBR.

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  1. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Great performance by one of the best boxers in the game. I love the way Bivol conducts himself. He’s a total professional, managing distance, always in control, defensively responsible and excellent footwork. His gas tank is world class and he made easy work of a much bigger opponent tonight. These two could fight 10 times and Bivol would win every time. I don’t blame Zurdo, there are levels to this sport and tonight was a great example.

    Bivol was promised a rematch by Canelo. Canelo said he would NOT give him a rematch if Bivol lost to Zurdo. He took care of business and deserves a payday. Fight Canelo at168 and take all his belts. Show his fans the first dominant victory had nothing to do with size. He’s a better boxer than Canelo in every facet of the game. No way Canelo takes that fight at 168 but he may be coaxed into 175.

    I scored this one 11-1 Bivol but could have easily scored it 12-0. Dominant performance, easy money for Bivol. He’s got an old school style and could easily fight 15 rounds if they still did that sort of thing. In a fifteen round fight, I don’t think anyone could beat him. Beterbiev has his hands full in a 12 rounder with Bivol. After Canelo I hope we get to see it.
     
  2. navigator

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    It tightened up the nearer the bout got. Wasn't much between them by fight night, Beterbiev a slight underdog. Plenty of observers out there fancied him.
     
  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Calm down there little man. Plenty tipped Beterbiev in that one, myself included.
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I figured Loma would struggle against Teo, but I cannot take too much credit for that prediction (I suppose a moderate amount) because Loma had already shown a deficiency of spirit and character against Salido. So I knew against a physically stronger and dominant man that he would turtle up.
     
  5. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not remotely impressed with Bivol tonight. I am not saying he isn't skilled, but, that was a glorified sparring session against a fighter who appeared to be on a level similar to JCC Junior. Ramirez was slow as molasses, had no game plan, and showed no urgency whatsoever as he got further and further down in the fight. If Bivol was as good as people are saying, he should have closed the show against the clueless Ramirez. He better bring a lot more to the table if he wants to beat Beterbiev. As it stands now, about all I can say for sure is that Bivol is a little better than Canelo at 175. How good he actually is, is yet to be determined.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    For the record, even though I wasn't posting at the time, I predicted a Salido win as well. But unlike you, I saw him put up a spirited performance and closed incredibly strong, backing Salido up and was on the verge of stopping him, in a match he arguably won in. There was NOTHING dominant about that performance.
     
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  7. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I'm sure he'll be devastated at your assessment
     
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  8. uber-pain

    uber-pain KO a bear the other day boring Full Member

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    people comparing tonight bout versus Ramirez slow as molass to Beterbiev 2 times olympian and triple champion,yeah there about the same COMMON! it will be very different,Bivol can win,but he must engage or run all night long to not get ko.
     
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  9. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Bivol. But, objectively, he is looking a bit overrated right now. Ramirez is just not legitimate championship material at 175. Ramirez would be hard pressed to beat any legitimate contenders fighting the way he did tonight.
     
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  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    After tonight, still neutral on Bivol. Absolute top class technician. Still cant warm to him though. But I do appreciate the sublime skill.
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    But ask yourself, why did Zurdo fight the way he fought tonight?
     
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  12. uber-pain

    uber-pain KO a bear the other day boring Full Member

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    people must calm down a little it was ZUrdo slow hands Ramirez after all not a true elite champion like the 2 time olympian and triple champion Beterbiev.
     
  13. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2 reasons:

    1) Bivol was much quicker and more skilled.
    2) Ramirez just isn't good.
     
  14. navigator

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    I can't agree.

    In certain ways, he was in a little too deep at that early stage of his professional career. You could even say that he or his handlers were a little presumptuous. But he gutted out a tough baptism of fire and finished powerfully. Salido was very experienced, still very tough and strong, and decidedly underrated in his skillset.

    And, yes, Lomachenko was leery of López in the first half of their bout, but grabbed his balls soon enough and firmly enough to escape the kind of withering assessment I'm dishing out to Zurdo tonight.

    Look, I do agree that Lomachenko has been a bit of a ***** when he's had pedestrian opposition in front of him, but he's got considerably greater reserves of grit and desire in him than Zurdo showed tonight.

    For what it's worth, I thought López had a very good shot to beat Lomachenko, but I didn't predicate that on an expectation that Lomachenko would just roll over for twelve rounds (and he did not, whereas Zurdo more or less just did).
     
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  15. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he's only a little better than Canelo why did he waterboard him when they fought?
     
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