Dmitry Yuryevich Bivol vs. Gilberto Ramírez Sánchez & Shavkatdzhon Rakhimov vs. Zelfa Barrett RBR.

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  1. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bivol would have to be on his bike for 36 minutes against Beterbiev

    I cant see him avoiding any clinches tbh
     
  2. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Embarrassing, but what's worse is the fact that the Fighter didn't give it his all especially with all his interviews saying people should Bet their House on him, sad.
     
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  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I still slightly favour Beterbiev. People don't land on Bivol. No one does, so every punch must be made to count, including those which find shoulders and arms. And when a punch finds the chin or body each must leave an impression. Every punch Beterbiev throws, hurts. And Bivol doesn't have the fight-ending power to stop Beterbiev seeking those few potentially decisive openings.

    That said, I'm not at all confident about all of the above. It's just a gut feeling...
     
  4. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Many have clearly overrated Ramirez' capabilities and resume. Bivol was good, but there are many better at that weight alone
     
  5. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Dominant low blows were in full effect
     
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  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev, Usyk, Kovalev, Pacquiao, Margarito, Froch, Morales, Hagler, Hearns would never back down in the face of a physically strong and technically competent opponent the way that Loma has done or the way Zurdo did last night.

    Those are my type of guys. That's a fighter. After last night I can no longer call myself a fan of Zurdo.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    So... I guess you missed him, not backing down against physically strong and technically competent opponents like Linares, Walters, Campbell, Pedraza, Commey, Nakatani and Ortiz then. Because that criteria covers most of them. How about get your story straight, he took it easy for 6 rounds against a massive Welterweight with a huge KO punch, because he went into the match injured, and thought he could close strong, and close strong he did, but it was too little too late. Then he got surgery immediately following the match and was out for almost a year. It seems like you'd have a little compassion for the man, after all, the aforementioned Pacquiao had a shoulder injury like Loma, which is why he supposedly **** the bed against Mayweather.
     
  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pac while more than a half decade past prime was beaten by Mayweather. So what? Means nothing to me as far as my fandom is concerned.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    But you still acknowledge that without the injury, Pacquiao would've most likely performed far more impressively than he did correct? And that the injury most likely greatly inhibited Pac's performance correct? Quite frankly you'd have to be borderline delusional to say otherwise. Well Pacquiao and Lomachenko both stupidly went into their matches with pre-existing shoulder injuries. They should've both pulled out, but then they'd have to face the backlash of being called quitters and whatnot from their army of haters. Also, there's no guaranteeing a match that's as hard to sign as Pac-May would ever be on the table again. Pac faced an uphill battle because of his skill deficit, Loma faced an uphill battle due to his power deficit. But they both made the best of a bad situation. Also, you do understand that if Loma went all out early, blew his shoulder out even more, and his dad had to pull him, that would be a TKO loss, right? What would look worse on a resume? A TKO loss, which as evidenced by the assholes on here, like Lennox-Vitali an Vitali-Byrd can take on a life of their own. Or a half hearted safety first early rounds, only to slowly amp up the pressure in an attempt to build to a crescendo and win it down the stretch, and another thing, let's not forget, the judges were out to **** Loma that night, he never had a chance. Loma swept 7 through 11 and had an argument for nicking the 2nd and even 6th. Yet though vile whores Lederman and Weisfeld gave him 1 and 3 rounds. I doubt even you had it that wide. Clearly squeaking out a points win would be preferable to losing by TKO.

    So stop making up this false narrative by acting like Loma's injury didn't play a huge part in what happened that night. If you do, then you're being intellectually dishonest. He had surgery afterward, no one has surgery for ****s and giggles. Sometimes excuses are valid, now stop doing your best imitation of a Mayweather fanboy.
     
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  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    You gotta be trolling me if you think the only disadvantage Pac had was a health and skill defecit. Try height, reach, size, ring age, etc. The only advantage Pac had was chronological age (rendered useless because of his advanced ring years) and power.
     
  11. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it was between Round 4 and 5 and the camera focus on Ramirez and he had this dumb, goofy defeated look on his face.
     
  12. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah i bet you could tell after the very first round that this fight was done, Ramirez always has that look, he was googly eyeing Bivol all week & had that smirk like he was actually going to do something that Bivol wasn't ready for,

    But as usual Boxing delivers,

    No wonder people you have been watching Boxing for years seem uninterested & jaded, we've seen all the bs before....
     
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  13. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Take Froch & the Old version of pity pat Kovalev out & that's a good list, agree with your point on Ramierz.
     
  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I prefer to think of young Kovalev. Old Vodka soaked Kovalev has been purged from my memory.
     
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  15. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Same here, always felt bad about the way they underpromoted him throughout his Career & the way they jobbed him out against Ward.
     
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