do 12 rounds just add to bad decisions?

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  1. itsa

    itsa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    12 an even number allows for 6 TO 6 DRAW imo. 15 rounds has that uneven which allows for a tiebreaker.
     
  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    They should go back to 15 but to answer ur question 13 would b better than 12
     
  3. Mendoza

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    Yes. 6-6, or 7-5 when the 5 has a knockdown.

    IMO there were less bad calls in 15 round fights.

    I think title unifications should go 15 rounds.
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    ALL title fights should be for 15 rounds...it was a huge mistake to go to 12 rounds. It's one of the reasons I think boxing has been degraded since the 70's...and a reason why personally, I don't take boxing as seriously today as back in the 15 rounder days.
     
  5. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What would be the benefit of going back to 15 rounds?

    At this point, fighters have been trained to go 12 rounds. They're used to it by now.
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well, let's have them go to 10 rounds for title bouts...save the boxers from those 2 rounds of punishment...12 rounds was safer and better than 15, right? Then 10 would be better than 12. Even better for those fans with short, fruit fly attention spans...it would encourage the fighters to go all out for 10 rounds...more slugfests, and consequently attract those "casual fans" who want constant action....not as much boring scientific boxing...the fighters don't have to worry about gassing out trying to go 12 rounds.
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    How did it degrade boxing? Why was it a mistake?
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    One answer to your question is that it...the 15 round distance, was one way to separate the men from the boys, so to speak....most of the glorious aspects of boxing's rich history was during that time when title bouts were 15 rounds. I remember the 60's, 70's, and a portion of the 80's to this effect, in my own lifetime....many others, notably @burt beinstock would argue likewise and a lot more fervently and eloquently in agreement with me here. A huge amount of boxing's history, heritage and legacy was robbed by this opportunistic, knee jerk degradation of boxing by the so called "powers that be".
     
  9. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think not. However, I would think the reduction in rounds in championship fights has led to more draws due to the even number of rounds. I think if they had to shorten the fights, it would have made more sense to make them 13 rounds.
     
  10. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think matchmaking and commission medical evaluation of fighters is more important than fight distance in preventing ring deaths in championship fights. Johnny Owen and Deuk Koo Kim were overmatched and the injuries happened after the 12th round. Jimmy Garcia was overmatched and it happened before the 12th round. Some deaths/injuries are kind of unexplainable, other than the inherent risk Boxing presents, and occurred before the 12th round. Examples are Kiko Bejines, Gerald McClellan and Michael Watson. Greg Page and Lavender Johnson simply had taken too much punishment for too long and probably shouldn't have been fighting.
     
  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember the USBA experimenting with 13 round fights to break a draw, it did not catch on.

    Yes I can see the romance of the 15 rounder, I was on that side for years. But come on it is 2015; 15 rounders are not going to happen in big fights again, it has been nearly 30 years, it is like banging on about 20 rounders in the 60s/70s.

    I suspect there will come a time in the not to distant future when 12 rounders are no more and 10 rounders replace them. It is the way boxing is going.
     
  12. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah I remember the 13 rounds thing. That only happened in the event of a draw, whereby an additional round was fought to determine the winner. (If I am not mistaken.)
    I think 12 rounds is fine. Some fights are so close that a draw seems a logical decision. I've watched many a fight where it would have been almost unfair if one guy were to lose.

    I would like the return of the 15-rounder too. Some of boxing's most memorable moments came in those championship rounds. Going from 10 rounds to 12 is no big deal but going 10 rounds to 15 is.
    Those three extra rounds sometimes made all the difference.
    It won't happen, but we can dream fruitlessly can't we?
     
  13. 70sFan

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    I never liked the 12 rounds as the championship distance. I think the 13-15th rounds brought out the best in the fighters. Many fights of the past may have turned out differently if they were scheduled for 12. I wonder what would have happened if the recent big fight 12 rounders were 15 instead.

    I miss the 15.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    A draw isn't a bad decision ... unless it's a bad decision.
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    It seems like the impossible dream..."it can't be done",...that kind of BS....or they'll come up with all kinds of so called reasons why it's detrimental to the boxers...well, it really wasn't a problem for 70, 80 some odd years, was it? Marciano would have never become champion if it were not for the 15 round limit...and so many others accomplished so much greatness in those "no man's land" rounds of 13 through 15...the REAL championship rounds.