Do Ali and Leonard have similar resumes?

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    That might be true to a certain extent but....

    1. Calling MMH `shot` is way too harsh on Leonards victory over Hagler. Leonard ended the p4p no1`s 11 yr winning streak after 3 yrs of inactivity with IMHO a brilliant display of skills, heart & ambition.

    2. Hagler cant compete with Ray on a p4p basis regardless of who you felt deserved the decision in the actual fight (7-5 for Leonard was my score)

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  2. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    As the biggest Ali fan Ive ever known, it hurts me to correct you & say Holmes TKO11 Ali.

    (Seriously, whats wrong with you ? :verysad)
     
  3. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Why not ? :huh

    Both were 3/1 underdogs vs at the time the most feared/respected fighters in the world.

    how anyone can try downplay any of those performances beggars belief tbh.
     
  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Show me a fight were Ray put it all together more fluid, fast, sharp & devastating than Ali did vs Williams (regardless of opposition) & then we can talk.
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Tough ****, he shouldnt have signed the fight then.

    Better boxer won, get it dealt with !
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The nature of the victories can not be compared, was my meaning.
     
  7. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    You forgot to mention after Roldan, Hagler other 2 fights he won by tko alot earlier. In which one of them was against Leonard enermy Hearns in which Hagler tko Hearns in the 3rd round. If Hagler was a "shot" fighter, he would have 5 losses before the Leonard fight.
     
  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Fair enough, Ali did score the KO & that IS in anyone`s language a better & more clear-cut victory than a close (some say controversial :lol:) pts win but due to certain circumstances (SRLs inactivity being a major factor), both victories were not that far apart as far as `shock the world` type ****.

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  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Haglar lost to Leonard for the same reason he ended up with a draw in the first Antuofermo fight. Stupidity! It had nothing to do with Marvin being past his best. Haglar was just 11 months removed from the Mugabi win. SRL had done nothing for 3 freaking years! Marvin was 33. Ray was 31. Ray fought a smart fight. Haglar fought a stupid fight, and it wasn't the first time.
     
  10. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Similar, but the decisive edge belongs to Ali.
     
  11. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    ...So...you took that comment seriously, then? ...Good job with that, mate.
     
  12. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    The top of Leonards resume is phenomenal - Duran, Hearns, Hagler and Benitez (I think the win over Kalule was an excellent one also) but Ali's is so much deeper it's ridiculous.

    Ali came back from exile and didn't look the same fighter. His legs were his main attribute and they were never the same. Despite this, he dominated the best HW division in history.
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Not everyone is fully aware of your status as the forum clown, B.
     
  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Come on, that comment didn't even sound serious did it? ...****ing gout. :patsch...He did have it though, of course....and severe alopecia.
     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Hagler was defeated by a 4-1 underdog who hadn't fought in three years. Damnn.