Do any of you undertsand what an UNWRITTEN RULE IS?

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  1. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is shamefully dumb.

    That is all.
     
  2. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Ortiz threw two shots after the head butt.. lmao
     
  3. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    That was one of the most blatant head butts we have seen in a long long time. Ortiz gets caught on it and tries to apologize like it was an accident but how many times does he need to hug mayweather? They already did it once and now are getting back to fight again and mayweather has made it clear in the past he isnt one for unnecessarily touching gloves ect during fight time. Ortiz thinks if he gives out hugs and kisses that there isnt going to be any response from mayweather for his foul? Ive never seen so many people get their panties in a bunch over a boxer punching someone while the fight is active and the clock is running, that is the entire point of boxing. So if someone doesnt want to get punched they can just stop in the middle of the fight and open up for a hug and expect not to get hit now?
     
  4. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    What's your overall opinion on what went down, man? Cheap, but legal? Not cheap? Ortiz got what was coming?
     
  5. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only Floyd Mayweather, could get hit with one of the most blatant illegal fouls in recent years, then KO his opponent legally, and people say he cheated.
     
  6. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no, people are saying it was a cheap shot. no one's saying he cheated. ortiz headbutt was illegal.
     
  7. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    :lol: not quite, man. I don't think anyone is saying what Mayweather did wasn't legal. It was 100% legal, but cheap. I keep saying this over and over - it is the way FMJ did it that made it cheap, not the fact alone that he did it.

    Remember Khan - Maidana? Khan went to tap gloves after the opening bell, and Maidana tried to take his head off. The shot missed, but what if it had landed and knocked Khan out? Would anybody be defending Maidana's actions?
     
  8. Leonard

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    funny when shane got kd'd by pac and he immediately touched gloves.. it could work yeah. lol

    seriously though, it was not like ortiz did it in the middle of the fight. he was still apologetic, his body actions showed that there was remorse in his actions. i think he was thinking of the gravity of what he's done and still trying to clear his head and ask for forgiveness, that's when he was tagged with 2 clean shots.
     
  9. Toopretty

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    It was kind of cheap. Legal and I dont blame him. When Ortiz caught him with the right hook that sent Floyd back to the ropes I was like Oh ****.. we got a fight.. then I seen Floyd parry and block everything Ortiz was swinging and before the headbutt I knew Floyd had the fight won. Ortiz looked just like everyone else who punches themselves out with useless flurries. Then I seen the tree-bro jumping head butt(floyd even rolled that a little :lol:) then I said ah ..... Floyd is going to whoop his ass now. I told my girl that. Then the left hook then the right hand. I knew it was legal but I was not expecting it. I was confused for a minute as to why the **** Ortiz had his hands down by his side when Mayweather was clearly in attack mode with his face balled up and evil. How the **** can you not know a fight is going on. Floyd could of tagged him as soon as he stepped to the center of the ring. Floyd was NOT trying to trick or hug him etc. He wanted ****ing revenge. All and all I wish the fight lasted longer and Ortiz got his ass kicked and knocked out trying to defend himself.
     
  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :lol: ppl never bring that up too. Ortiz grazed Floyd with a right hook, gets him on the ropes. Misses with 8 punches. head butts him and then misses with 2 more punches :rofl

    he's such a clown
     
  11. Count Pacula

    Count Pacula Cashweight Thrillionaire Full Member

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    You expect me to TRUST my opponent?? I don't need to befriend him therefore trust doesn't have to exist between us. He's in the ring to kill me. Obviously murder is technically not his intention but his job is to inflict heavy damage which can lead to fatality. Therefore I'm gonna do everything I can, within the rules, to stop him asap. Combat sport isn't just physical but mental as well. A true champ knows how to defeat his opponent by outsmarting him. Sneak attack is fair play dude. Please don't tell me otherwise. The use of cleverness and trickery is very much an admirable tactic.

    You bring up a valid point about Floyd and Judah. I imagine at the time even though Judah had fouled him, Floyd found a way to be lenient. Ortiz is a different situation....a different beast. What you need to understand is Floyd doesn't have to like him. He doesn't have to be polite. Mayweather has every right to make choices. He just has to find a way to win. That's all that matters. As long as he plays within the rules he shouldn't be punished. He hugged and shook Ortiz's hand after the match so obviously there was good sportsmanship. What's the big deal?

    FFS, it's a FIGHT! Combatants are supposed to be cold, brutal, and mean-spirited during a match. That's entertainment for us fans. If those things turn you off you're involved in the wrong sport.

    I don't care if you hate hate FMJ. I couldn't care less if you think he's a dick. But don't call giving Ortiz a sneaky two-piece combo a wrong move. How can it be wrong when it's well within the rules? **** unwritten rules. They are created by pansies who are overly sensitive and don't understand the true nature of professionalism. Unwritten rules are only respected by me when they are implemented in a high school or junior high league because adolescents still have room for growth and development. In the professional world, especially dealing with a combat sport, it's a cutthroat business and your training wheels don't exist anymore.

    Nobody constantly reminds me that I have to wake up in the morning for work. Nobody offers to pay my bills. The bus driver does not wait for me if I'm late. Why should FMJ or any other boxer wait for Ortiz to prepare himself? Isn't months of training enough? Either you're fully prepared mentally and physically...or you're not.

    Don't turn the sport of boxing into a fruit orchard. Leave some room for some smash-mouth wars. If hockey allows fighting then we shouldn't frown upon a few roughhouse tactics (not to be confused with dirty fouls such as low blows, intentional headbutts, etc.)
     
  12. bomberman

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    I think a good example with be at work...

    If you had a great idea, and so happens that company liked it and it gave good revenue, but your boss owned up to that idea, and did not give you recognition, I think that is considered as cheap.

    If you want it closer, you conned someone to get his idea, and your boss coned you to give him that idea, does that make him right?
     
  13. Sweet Jones

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    This is a joke, right?

    You think PBF has time to digest all that after he's been blatantly fouled by a guy launching the crown of his head directly into his jaw in the middle of a prizefight?

    You talk like Mayweather some chick is trying to determine if they should go on a second date after Ortiz felt her up. This ain't a dayum romantic comedy.

    Y'all cats need to stop this. Seriously.
     
  14. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    racist garbage...
     
  15. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    am i even defending ortiz? i'm trying to look at his actions and they portray submission. his hands were down and was looking away.

    it was up to floyd if he wanted to go at him like that. his actions were perfectly legal. this is boxing, ortiz is stupid and a noob for dropping his hands. he didn't man up.